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liam.mccaffrey

posted on 26/10/05 at 10:16 PM Reply With Quote
907 will have made provision for this im sure guys, to make an english wheel you must understand how one works. I don't think it is as it appears





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JoelP

posted on 26/10/05 at 10:29 PM Reply With Quote
i too wondered which bit moved, but to be honest, you'd need to be real stupid to make it with both wheels fixed and i assume he knows a little more about it than me!





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NS Dev

posted on 26/10/05 at 10:37 PM Reply With Quote
and his welding is far too bloody neat, git!
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907

posted on 26/10/05 at 11:24 PM Reply With Quote
It's the opposite way up to Rorty's,

but then again, since he's in Oz it would be.

The vertical bit is 80 x 80 box. Inside it is a bit of 70 x70 and a thread runs
down the middle with a wheel underneath, (or it will have when it's finished).

The frame is 120 x 60 x 6.

I have no idea how strong it will need to be, but the plan is to have a throat
big enough to make an air scoop in a bonnet.

Any advise welcome.

Paul G






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Rorty

posted on 26/10/05 at 11:30 PM Reply With Quote
I didn't doubt your ability at all having seen some of your fabrication work before.
Does your Ewheel have a kick wheel for adjustment then? Some swear by them and some swear at them when they repeatedly anneal their shins on them.





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907

posted on 26/10/05 at 11:38 PM Reply With Quote
That's the idea.

Thinking of M18 fine (because I have a tap that size).

Is the finer the better?

Paul G






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Rorty

posted on 27/10/05 at 12:03 AM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by 907
That's the idea.

Thinking of M18 fine (because I have a tap that size).

Is the finer the better?

Paul G

Yes, although a weaker thread, finer is better, but I'd up the size to at least M22 x 1.5 (or even M24 x 2) especially as it's a kick wheel and will be subject to greater side loads and the inevitable knocks.





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rusty nuts

posted on 28/10/05 at 05:55 PM Reply With Quote
Paul, might be able to help with a larger tap. Possibly up to 22mm if it's any help .
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907

posted on 28/10/05 at 06:55 PM Reply With Quote
Is that M22 fine (x1.5)?

If it is, that would be great Melvyn.

I have all the normal metric taps up to 24 and brakes (10x1), fan switch (14x1.25), and the w/bones (18x1).
At £20 ish apiece I grudge buying them just to cut one thread.

Cheers,

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907

posted on 29/10/05 at 08:21 PM Reply With Quote
The wheels nearly finished.

Just a few probs to iron out; like get rid of that spanner hanging on the bottom.

AND IT WORKS , well sort of.


Now where did I put those ally offcuts.


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907

posted on 29/10/05 at 08:31 PM Reply With Quote
Please be gentle. It's my first go.

WOW, 1000 hours of practice and I should get the hang of this.

and what's more, I'v still got my thumbs.


Pic below is a bonnet bulge for a Fiat 500

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Avoneer

posted on 29/10/05 at 09:41 PM Reply With Quote
And how smooth did it end up?

Looking really good though.

Will there be a spurt of wheel arches like the cans?

Pat...





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Rorty

posted on 29/10/05 at 09:54 PM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by 907
WOW, 1000 hours of practice and I should get the hang of this.

and what's more, I'v still got my thumbs.


Pic below is a bonnet bulge for a Fiat 500

Paul G

Beautiful job Paul. Make sure you polish the hell out of those wheels and anvil as their surface finish is directly related to the finish you'll get on your work.





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907

posted on 29/10/05 at 11:21 PM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Avoneer


Will there be a spurt of wheel arches like the cans?

Pat...



There certainly will Pat.

The thread will be called...

"Anyone need a Wok?"


As for the finish, I'll have a go with a rag mop and see what it comes up like.

Maybe I should have gone down in smaller stages. I think it's going to be a bit of a learning curve.

The pic below is the best I can do. It's taken about 50 mm from the surface.

Paul G






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posted on 29/10/05 at 11:23 PM Reply With Quote
Forgot the ****** pic

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Gaz 1977

posted on 30/10/05 at 10:06 PM Reply With Quote
looking good, cant wait to see more results
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907

posted on 31/10/05 at 12:15 AM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Gaz 1977
looking good, cant wait to see more results



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Gaz 1977

posted on 1/11/05 at 01:46 PM Reply With Quote
big dent

I cant believe that mother used your head as a former for the ally
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Cita

posted on 1/11/05 at 02:12 PM Reply With Quote

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907

posted on 9/11/05 at 08:18 PM Reply With Quote
I love it when a plan comes together.

First of all, many thanks for all the assistance I'v had with this little project,
especialy Melvyn, (Rusty Nuts) for the loan of the M22f tap, delivered it too.

It's now finished. All I'v got to do now is learn how to use it.

From the pics I'v seen on the net, I'v come to the conclusion that they have
to be painted a realy revolting colour, so mine's "poppy", to match my eyes.

Many thanks everyone,

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Rorty

posted on 9/11/05 at 08:27 PM Reply With Quote
Very nice too. Well done. Can I have a set of 18/10 saucepans please?





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907

posted on 9/11/05 at 08:49 PM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Rorty
Very nice too. Well done. Can I have a set of 18/10 saucepans please?




Would that be a 10 inch, and an 18 inch then?

What do you have in mind..... JAM MAKING?


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Rorty

posted on 9/11/05 at 09:15 PM Reply With Quote
18/10 being the stainless material to really test your skills, but since you're offering, I do need a new jam pan. I'm not allowed to make my marmalade in the copper one anymore as it has been elevated to ornament status!





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stevebubs

posted on 9/11/05 at 10:24 PM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by 907
Good replies chaps, but still want to find someone who has used one.

Anyone know where you can buy "casenite"? ( case hardening powder )

Paul G


They had one at the welding course I attended in Bracknell (was also covering sheet metal work). they had the bodywork guy in showing how to repair panels etc. he got us to use one of these in turn to start forming the metal for a wheel arch patch.

Quite impressive the way it works - just keep sliding back and forth.

Stephen

PS If you ever watch American hotrod, they use theirs quite frequently for forming chassis rails etc.

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stevebubs

posted on 9/11/05 at 10:25 PM Reply With Quote
PS Just scrolled down and seen the finished item - very nice!
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