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Author: Subject: idea - making finned heasink to fit onto a tube
02GF74

posted on 22/1/09 at 11:38 AM Reply With Quote
idea - making finned heasink to fit onto a tube

this is for my LED lamps. they are housed in a 26 mm copper tube that gets to about 50 degree C.

I am looking of a way of fitting a finned heatsink over the tube, a bit like you can get for ransistor cans or exhaust collars on air cooled motorcycles.

Two ideas spring to mind - bend a piece of ali sheet and attach - not sure I can do the bending nor how to ensure there is maximum contact with the tube - top piccy.

Or get some thick aluminum, chain drill and , file down to make fins and big hole in centro to slip over tube - that seems a lot of work - bottom piccy.

so any other ideas? Rescued attachment hsink.JPG
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Mr Whippy

posted on 22/1/09 at 11:51 AM Reply With Quote
what do these lamps do? surely not chav blue LEDs lighting up you engine bay? Sound quite big too.





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posted on 22/1/09 at 11:56 AM Reply With Quote
tut tut , who's not been paying attention?

these are mountain bike LED lamps - yep - I realised I'd posted in wrong section.

They use 5 W emitter - photo shows with 3 W driver but I have since got 5 W drivers that make them blinding, literally!! Rescued attachment lamp.JPG
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Alfa145

posted on 22/1/09 at 12:02 PM Reply With Quote
What about using an Oil filter cooler or a cut down version of one to fit your needs?




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02GF74

posted on 22/1/09 at 12:06 PM Reply With Quote
^^^ yeah - did consider that but oil cooler is about 3 x diameter; alloy would probably break if bent to the smaller radius.






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posted on 22/1/09 at 12:07 PM Reply With Quote
i was just gonna suggest modding an oil cooler wrap

its the best idea and not worth bothering with anying else imho

EDIT
you could anneal it to prevent it breaking, didn't realise the disparity in the dims

[Edited on 22/1/09 by liam.mccaffrey]

[Edited on 22/1/09 by liam.mccaffrey]





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Alfa145

posted on 22/1/09 at 12:09 PM Reply With Quote
Maybe or maybe not with a bit of heat and a hammer?
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r1_pete

posted on 22/1/09 at 12:37 PM Reply With Quote
How about making a few copper washers with a 26mm hole and soldering them on the tube? Rescued attachment colling.jpg
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02GF74

posted on 22/1/09 at 12:41 PM Reply With Quote
^^^ interesting - but the air flow would be wrong for the discs, unless there is a strong side wind.






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3GEComponents

posted on 22/1/09 at 01:03 PM Reply With Quote
Check out some of the RC car sites, they do heat sinks for the motors, that might be suitable.

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Mr Whippy

posted on 22/1/09 at 01:15 PM Reply With Quote
^^ exactly right there quite common, also try miniture indoor heli's as the motors tend to be smaller than the cars

type 'electric motor heatsink' into google images



How much are these LED BTW? I need one very bright light for the wing mounted landing light of a large r/c piper cub. This LED seems just perfect for it.



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02GF74

posted on 22/1/09 at 01:25 PM Reply With Quote
depends where and what you buy.

the high power LED - emitter - is about £ 5.99

then you need a driver, these wil cost £ 5 - same seller as the linky.

you then need to have a lens and lens holder, maybe a couple of quid. (I got mine from Germany).

and a battery - I am using an RC 7.2 V battery, about a couple of quid + lots for postage; price depends on capacity. "search rc battery 7.2v" on ebay

then you need a charger, about a tenner from maplins or ebay.

then some method to hold it all together, I made lamp holder from copper plumbing tube.

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3GEComponents

posted on 22/1/09 at 01:28 PM Reply With Quote
Can you do a wiring diagram and parts list, this is something i've always fancied doing.

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Mr Whippy

posted on 22/1/09 at 01:49 PM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by 02GF74
depends where and what you buy.

the high power LED - emitter - is about £ 5.99

then you need a driver, these wil cost £ 5 - same seller as the linky.

you then need to have a lens and lens holder, maybe a couple of quid. (I got mine from Germany).

and a battery - I am using an RC 7.2 V battery, about a couple of quid + lots for postage; price depends on capacity. "search rc battery 7.2v" on ebay

then you need a charger, about a tenner from maplins or ebay.

then some method to hold it all together, I made lamp holder from copper plumbing tube.

[Edited on 22/1/09 by 02GF74]


thanks dude, that's a good price. I've fitted lights before and although they work fine in the house. Outside in the air they can't be seen





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NigeEss

posted on 22/1/09 at 02:14 PM Reply With Quote
I gather the discs didn't work then ?





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02GF74

posted on 22/1/09 at 02:23 PM Reply With Quote
re: discs - I have not run the lamps with the discs yet. plan to do that tonight.

My feeling is that although there is more mass, the cooling will be via radiation/convection from the outside of the tube.

The will be run outside where air is cooler plus there will be air flow so it may not be an issue.

the concern is that I plan to put the driver inside the lamps where it gets quite hot - that may kill the drivers so there may nbe a mk2 version based on a 1 inch alumninium rod.

to give an example:


shows the alloy housing that is the heatsink.

bear in mind that mine will be 2 x brighter hence more heat generated. those cost £ 175, mine probably £ 20 ish.

[Edited on 22/1/09 by 02GF74]






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BenB

posted on 22/1/09 at 03:09 PM Reply With Quote
Standard R/C motors are actually name accourding to their diameter

The closest one to yours is a 280 motor.

You can get this

[img]http://shop.avicraft.co.uk/product_thumb.php?img=image/5510329.jpg&w=190&h=122[/img]

for £1.94!!!! It's 280 but the gap at the top should allow some easy modifications...

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BenB

posted on 22/1/09 at 03:11 PM Reply With Quote
Bizarre



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02GF74

posted on 22/1/09 at 03:14 PM Reply With Quote
good find - nice colour 2!!






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Avoneer

posted on 22/1/09 at 06:21 PM Reply With Quote
Cut the oil coler in in half and strap two halves to your light?

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LoMoss

posted on 22/1/09 at 07:24 PM Reply With Quote
What you want is one of these
Description
Description



If you can find them let me know. I have a mate in the electronic business who is looking for them for me.

These are from the states

http://www.qats.com/product.asp?prodid=2464


The unit above is from emergency lighting from
http://www.inotec-licht.de/Home.131.0.html

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iank

posted on 22/1/09 at 07:49 PM Reply With Quote
Try Wakefield Engineering http://www.wakefield.com

The 301/302/303 series look close.
http://www.wakefield.com/products/catalogs/extruded_heat_sinks_45-52.pdf

Farnell supply Wakefield sinks, but they are from the states so P+P is silly money.





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