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zilspeed

posted on 7/5/05 at 07:48 PM Reply With Quote
Kit Car Crisis

Kit Car Crisis - the new and strangely named kit car programme on Discovery whotsitsname tonight. I'm already getting built up to feel indignant about how the whole industry is going to be misrepresented.


Channel 133 @ 10pm
Or Channel 134 @ 11pm obviously.

If this means nothing to you, feel free to move along - there's nothing to see here.

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werebunny

posted on 7/5/05 at 08:30 PM Reply With Quote
Isn't it every Tuesday?





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Jon Ison

posted on 7/5/05 at 08:46 PM Reply With Quote
am i too late to beg someone too tape it for me, beer tokens in return........






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Hellfire

posted on 7/5/05 at 08:48 PM Reply With Quote
I'll stick a video in for you Jon.

Kids are gonna kill me though, I'm taping over their copy of Annie.

[Edited on 7-5-05 by Hellfire]






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greggors84

posted on 7/5/05 at 09:15 PM Reply With Quote
Watching it now, look squite interesting, a bloke is building a kitcar with a busa engine in to race.

The first chassis he tried was from alan whitehead? But his diff wouldnt fit.

Just before the break they had a clip of a MK going off the track backwards!





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zilspeed

posted on 7/5/05 at 09:18 PM Reply With Quote
What a twat.
And I've just seen the first part of the first episode.

Still - good luck to him...


[Edited on 7/5/05 by zilspeed]

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Hellfire

posted on 7/5/05 at 09:31 PM Reply With Quote
Whens the next episode? Same time next week?






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jonno

posted on 7/5/05 at 09:42 PM Reply With Quote
to quote zilspeed "what a twat" i must agree a bit, he has'nt got a clue !! he was quite amazed about a pop rivet oh well good luck !!

looks quite interesting thou

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JoelP

posted on 7/5/05 at 09:44 PM Reply With Quote
on my ntl box 134 is discovery science but its not on?! wrong box or what?!





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paulf

posted on 7/5/05 at 09:47 PM Reply With Quote
Its on the channel that used to be called Home and leisure , now called discovery real time.
Paul.

quote:
Originally posted by JoelP
on my ntl box 134 is discovery science but its not on?! wrong box or what?!

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Wadders

posted on 7/5/05 at 09:52 PM Reply With Quote
And he moaned about having to do 400 with an air riveter, should have done it the "mans" way with a £3.99 hand riveter, he would have been in tears........ i know i nearly was



Originally posted by jonno
to quote zilspeed "what a twat" i must agree a bit, he has'nt got a clue !! he was quite amazed about a pop rivet oh well good luck !!

looks quite interesting thou

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JoelP

posted on 7/5/05 at 09:58 PM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by paulf
Its on the channel that used to be called Home and leisure , now called discovery real time.
Paul.



bugger, i dont have that one...





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Jonr

posted on 7/5/05 at 10:25 PM Reply With Quote
Kit car, doesn't the entire thing come in a box with instruction, like airfix kits?

rivet?? what's a rivet?

yup, twat! but good luck to him.

should run a sweeper on how many lpas it takes him to twat the car on his first race.

Although I was already seriously considering his shed and crane method of construction! though I do have a path round the side of the house.

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Jasper

posted on 7/5/05 at 10:31 PM Reply With Quote
What the f... is a Dominator? Must have missed a couple of shows!

And what nutsack about the side impact bars - it would be ok if whatever hits you is 2 inches off the ground!

And I love the one - 'If the chassis is 3mm out - it will turn corners on it's own' - that would mean every home built locost would be undriveable.

Ohhhh - I do like tha air ali nibbler

If it was me I'd have had the mid-engine Fisher Menace...

Anyway - set the Sky+ to series record - can't miss the next installment

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Dillinger1977

posted on 7/5/05 at 10:35 PM Reply With Quote
I only caught the last half of it but I thought it was quite good.
im in a very similar situation, about to embark on a kitcar build with very little in the way of a manual or mechanical knowledge.

not everyone is an engineer, I hope i dont get called a twat when i ask a seemingly simple question once i start building!

PS, I want an air compressor now. that rivet gun looked almost fun, even if he was complaining!

[Edited on 7/5/05 by Dillinger1977]





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zilspeed

posted on 7/5/05 at 10:38 PM Reply With Quote
You definitely won't. But then again, I'm sure you're not trying to make a telly programme about the process.

P.S. Welcome

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Jonr

posted on 7/5/05 at 10:48 PM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Dillinger1977


not everyone is an engineer, I hope i dont get called a twat when i ask a seemingly simple question once i start building!


[Edited on 7/5/05 by Dillinger1977]


Ahh but there are simple questions and REALLY simple questions and since your here your not a twat. I'll freely admit to being a twat at times, just try working to the book dimensions!!

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chrism

posted on 7/5/05 at 11:55 PM Reply With Quote
Have you seen the information on the discovery website about the program, theres a picture on it showing him grinding at something with NOTHING protecting his eyes.
Someone has pointed this out in another thread.
It will be interesting to see if he ever does get to race it, as I read somewhere else that the chassis had a lot of flex in it and was very unsafe. But i'm just repeating what I read.





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liam.mccaffrey

posted on 8/5/05 at 12:56 AM Reply With Quote
on our ntl, discovery is 304 Joel? is it different in different areas?





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UncleFista

posted on 8/5/05 at 01:00 AM Reply With Quote
There was a quick flash of a chassis page from "The Book" shown

It'll be interesting to see the later episodes thanks to a thread started by Jon Ison which pointed to HERE , (BTW the original poster "Man on a mission" is reputed to be Mark from the program).

Can't help thinking it might not show the kit-car industry in a good light...

[Edited on 8/5/05 by UncleFista]





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Benzine

posted on 8/5/05 at 05:00 AM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Wadders
should have done it the "mans" way with a £3.99 hand riveter, he would have been in tears........ i know i nearly was



Amen





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nicklondon

posted on 8/5/05 at 05:40 AM Reply With Quote
if like me you missed it,its on again tue at 2200
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Northy

posted on 8/5/05 at 06:23 AM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by UncleFista
There was a quick flash of a chassis page from "The Book" shown
[Edited on 8/5/05 by UncleFista]


It looked like the Tiger Avon book to me!





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David Jenkins

posted on 8/5/05 at 06:46 AM Reply With Quote
I thought that there'd be a few comments on here this morning...

I don't think that the kit car industry will come out of this series looking bad, as it's fairly obvious to everyone that the bloke's a bit of a pillock. Even my wife commented on it, and she has little interest in the mechanical bits of my car (tho' she does like being a passenger).

It's very clear that:


  • he has no mechanical skills (but everyone has to start somewhere)
  • he's done no significant research (like asking "how much fabrication does this kit involve", or "how hard is it to build" ).
  • he wants to race in one of the fastest club categories but he clearly has no experience in racing.

He would have been much better off with an established kit such as a Westie where everything's cut and ready to install - but Mark Evans did that. If all he really wanted to do is go racing then he'd been better of buying a car off an established racer and learned the ropes before building his own - but that wouldn't have made a TV series, would it?

Still, as has been said already - good luck to him (he'll need all he can get...)

David






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zilspeed

posted on 8/5/05 at 08:24 AM Reply With Quote
You know - I've been thinking about this.

It's almost like the poor bloke's been set up for a fall - the programme is called kit car crisis after all.

1)They build a shed instead of a garage - it would have been just as cheap to build a garage of that size.

2) It's all being done in the back garden of a terraced house with no access other than through the front door. I'm sorry, but even the biggest prat in the world wouldn't do that, they would hire a lock up nearby.

3)They had the first chassis delivered to the shed only to discover that a busa engine couldn't sensibly fit. Again, you or I would have spoken to the manufacturer and he would have said "bring me the engine and I'll make mounts and any mods necessary here at the factory.

4) The camcorder bits where he does direct to camera 'crisis monologues' and has bleeped swear words.


I reckon it's nothing more or less a pre ordained prat fall - hence the name. If it was a genuine attempt at a kit car build, it would be very very dfifferent.

**Update**

Ok - read the thread over on the RGB website. Seems as if he made all the decisions and financed it himself.
IF that's the case, it all seems very strange. There's a lot to be said for speaking to people involved in racing and building then getting some mentoring from them as you go. I know I do.
Thanks John / Gizmo



[Edited on 8/5/05 by zilspeed]

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