speedyxjs
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| posted on 9/12/09 at 12:40 PM |
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Third brake light fog light
I know there was some talk a while back about using a third brake light as a fog light but dont think it was ever cleared up.
Can anyone confirm whether using a third brake light as a fog light is IVA ok or not?
How long can i resist the temptation to drop a V8 in?
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blakep82
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| posted on 9/12/09 at 12:43 PM |
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i don't think it is.
the fog light needs to have an F mark on it or something. the reflector is different i'm told
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speedyxjs
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| posted on 9/12/09 at 12:45 PM |
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Ah well, worth a try 
How long can i resist the temptation to drop a V8 in?
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blakep82
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| posted on 9/12/09 at 12:50 PM |
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actually, reading the manual it does say something about converting a brake lamp, but i'm not sure it can be done. worth reading it for
yourself, page 195 of the latest manual.
i'm looking at audi ones. from the TT, they look like brake lights
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turbodisplay
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| posted on 9/12/09 at 01:13 PM |
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I`m using a brake light off a fiat coupe for fog.
I put a halfords extra bright light lo make it look brighter.
I know sva allowed "equivilent characteristics", don`t know about iva.
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boggle
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| posted on 9/12/09 at 01:13 PM |
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am sure with the new iva it has to have a different lense and be brighter than the brake lights....
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speedyxjs
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| posted on 9/12/09 at 01:49 PM |
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Am i right in thinking it also has to work with dipped and main beam? So it can work with side lights?
How long can i resist the temptation to drop a V8 in?
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Findlay234
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| posted on 9/12/09 at 02:37 PM |
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Hmmm, thats made me think about a possible mod for the future.... putting in a dual bulb into the fog light so you still have the fog as a high power
fog but then also have a lower power 3rd stop as well.... hmmm
Helps that my fog is centre high on rear panel..
Cheers
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iank
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| posted on 9/12/09 at 04:21 PM |
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Fog lights MUST have an F (or a B) mark along with the e mark (requirement 16 in the IVA manual).
The equivalence thing for SVA didn't apply to fog lights IIRC, but even if it did IVA removed that possibility.
SVA manual was £35, but IVA manual is a free download from VOSA. (hint for those who are still guessing/using 'it passed SVA'
arguments)
blake: Can't see anything in the very latest manual (dated 29/06/2009) about combining brake/fog lights, except for a note waiving B/F marks if
it's a mass produced American Vehicle approved by FMVSS or CMVSS.
[Edited on 9/12/09 by iank]
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Steve @ sVc
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| posted on 9/12/09 at 04:44 PM |
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For IVA, you will have to have a correctly marked rear fog light – this will have both “E” and “f” marks on the lens. The lens will have to be
vertical.
The rear fog light is the brightest of all the red lights at the back of the car – in order from less bright to brightest they are as follows: Rear
“tail light”, High level Brake light, Normal brake Lights and finally – at the top of the list we have the rear fog light!
One of the kit car mags got it wrong a few months ago, the car they built had a brake light fitted for a rear fog light – it failed SVA.
Hope this helps, Steve @ sVc
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bi22le
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| posted on 9/12/09 at 07:06 PM |
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my two thoughts are-
What about the fia approved rain lights? Also if you want a round iva suitable fog light then get one from a ford ka sport. Im sure they are circular
and central but low to the ground.
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iank
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| posted on 9/12/09 at 07:30 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by bi22le
my two thoughts are-
What about the fia approved rain lights? Also if you want a round iva suitable fog light then get one from a ford ka sport. Im sure they are circular
and central but low to the ground.
Does the FIA approved rain light have an E and F/B mark? If not you're out of luck.
Ka one should be fine assuming it has the marks where the tester can see them and it's mounted appropriately.
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