davidimurray
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| posted on 15/11/14 at 09:53 PM |
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Any one built a mid engined Duratec car
While working on my Duratec today to go in my 7 - I was thinking about the popularity of the engine in other forms but I couldn't think of a
kit/home build that had been built using a Duratec/Mondeo gearbox/drivetrain. I would have thought the supply of old Mondeos is plentiful and plenty
of scope for engine upgrades.
Anyone know if such a car has been built?
Gallery 1 http://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.116893465324.130778.601005324
Gallery 2 http://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.245243755324.181913.601005324&l=a9831a9319
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Gallery 6 http://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.10150550640070325.430417.601005324&type=3&l=fe779b358c
Duratec Engine Swap https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.10152527759580325.1073741828.601005324&type=1&l=40aae5e72f " target="_blank"> https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.10152527759580325.1073741828.601005324&type=1&l=40aae5e72f
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big_wasa
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| posted on 15/11/14 at 10:04 PM |
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There is a chap sticking a supercharged one into a Midlana (scratch built midi locost). Ive bought one for a midlana as well but I am torn between the
turbo zetec I am playing with, the duratec or the 3.0 v6 duratec or something els.
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femster87
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| posted on 15/11/14 at 10:50 PM |
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http://www.eclipsesportscars.com/
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bi22le
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| posted on 15/11/14 at 11:23 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by femster87
http://www.eclipsesportscars.com/
I had a good snoop around these today at brands Totalkitcar.
They use the stock great box with drive shafts and near the end of the half shady each side has a chain and sprocket drive to the wheel hub. It
articulates the whole chain to keep it in line with no twist.
All very clever did and the chaos seemed quite well made.
Track days ARE the best thing since sliced bread, until I get a supercharger that is!
Please read my ring story:
http://www.locostbuilders.co.uk/forum/13/viewthread.php?tid=139152&page=1
Me doing a sub 56sec lap around Brands Indy. I need a geo set up! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EHksfvIGB3I
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bozla
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| posted on 15/11/14 at 11:29 PM |
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I'm suprised there aren't more already as the 750 sports special regs dictate use of the engine as per the Eclipse. There is the FRS
arrow that the club is pushing but it uses the Fiesta drive train.
http://frsarrow.co.uk/
Midlana style would be the way I'd go personally.
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davidimurray
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| posted on 16/11/14 at 11:22 AM |
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Thanks for the links, some interesting cars there - that is quite a chain drive setup on the eclipse.
Gallery 1 http://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.116893465324.130778.601005324
Gallery 2 http://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.245243755324.181913.601005324&l=a9831a9319
Gallery 3 http://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.440671625324.232627.601005324&l=3f0d42c523
Gallery 4 http://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.490098255324.297598.601005324&l=efb083b7df
Gallery 5 http://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.10150244028550325.366987.601005324&l=583fd5cd3a
Gallery 6 http://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.10150550640070325.430417.601005324&type=3&l=fe779b358c
Duratec Engine Swap https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.10152527759580325.1073741828.601005324&type=1&l=40aae5e72f " target="_blank"> https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.10152527759580325.1073741828.601005324&type=1&l=40aae5e72f
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iant88
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| posted on 16/11/14 at 11:48 AM |
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Just looked at the Midlana site - very impressive and a really good looking car
Has ayone built one ? Has anyone got the book ? - is it worth the £61 cost ? Is it easy to convert to UK spec ?
(rhd and Uk engines/running gear)
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big_wasa
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| posted on 16/11/14 at 01:30 PM |
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I've got the book and paid full whak.
It's very worth it, "IF" your going to build one. It's a dear one to sit on the shelf though.
I am collecting the parts and plan on starting the chassis in the spring.
Two points, in my opinion it is very over engineered and all the book dimensions are imperial.
There is a guy on here building already. And three or four else where in the world. It's going to be a very exclusive build.
Donor parts are very very cheap at the moment much like the mk2 escort when the first locost book came out.
[Edited on 16/11/14 by big_wasa]
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ashg
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| posted on 16/11/14 at 05:15 PM |
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i have got the book all the measurements are in imperial. other than that its spot on. much more detail than any of the haynes ones have
Anything With Tits or Wheels Will cost you MONEY!!
Haynes Roadster (Finished)
Exocet (Finished & Sold)
New Project (Started)
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coozer
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| posted on 16/11/14 at 05:26 PM |
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I've got the book paid £32 for it through Lulu. Being imperial doesn't bother me (cause that was what it was when I was at school)
Its my next build when i get round to it and I'm planning on a BAM 225 engine out of a Leon Cupra or Audi TT. Stage 1 remap on these motors is
270bhp
1972 V8 Jago
1980 Z750
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Mr C
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| posted on 16/11/14 at 07:16 PM |
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Thanks for the mentions Big Wasa..  Yep I'm currently building a Midlana, got a build thread on the Midlana site if anyone is interested.
Though I'm not doing information overload or going too technical with the posts, as I'm from a non engineering background and also fed up
with the armchair critics and keyboard warriors,.. it is what it is...
Posted a few images before of the engine one below.. Mated to a Mazda 3 MPS 6 speed gearbox with standard slipper, good for 350bhp all day though a
bit sensitive to oil types (IB5 from the fester is made of butter)
JK composites seats, willwood 6 pots front 4 pots rear, brembo handbrake calipers. escort fast rack and probably protech shocks (inboard) TD 1.2
17"s.. 7" on front 9" on back. Renault scenic steering column 
Not done anything for a little while as I'm doing a wetroom. (not touched the house for a good while because of my previous build (v-storm) So
banking some brownie points for a sustained effort soon.
Girl walks into a bar and asks for a double entendre, so the barman gave her one
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nickm
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| posted on 16/11/14 at 08:24 PM |
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Hi
Believe there are a couple of Sylva J15s that are Duratecs
Nick M
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coozer
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| posted on 16/11/14 at 09:33 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by Mr C
Thanks for the mentions Big Wasa.. Yep I'm currently building a Midlana, got a build thread on the Midlana site if anyone is interested.
Though I'm not doing information overload or going too technical with the posts, as I'm from a non engineering background and also fed up
with the armchair critics and keyboard warriors,.. it is what it is...
Posted a few images before of the engine one below.. Mated to a Mazda 3 MPS 6 speed gearbox with standard slipper, good for 350bhp all day though a
bit sensitive to oil types (IB5 from the fester is made of butter)
JK composites seats, willwood 6 pots front 4 pots rear, brembo handbrake calipers. escort fast rack and probably protech shocks (inboard) TD 1.2
17"s.. 7" on front 9" on back. Renault scenic steering column
Not done anything for a little while as I'm doing a wetroom. (not touched the house for a good while because of my previous build (v-storm) So
banking some brownie points for a sustained effort soon.
Nice looking motor there, is it brand new?
Escort fast rack? Not using the Mazda one? How easy is it to swap them? Both the same width for bump steer?
I'll be looking to use the smallest wheels that will fit the Mazda uprights as well.
Is your handle the same on the midi forum? I'm on there as Steve.
Steve
1972 V8 Jago
1980 Z750
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coozer
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| posted on 16/11/14 at 09:40 PM |
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Got ya b33fy innit?
1972 V8 Jago
1980 Z750
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Mr C
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| posted on 16/11/14 at 09:46 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by coozer
Got ya b33fy innit?
That's it Steve, couldn't register as B33fy on here when I joined, username is B33fy on all other forums, most active with the SKCC boys
being a southern softie and all that..
Making the car slightly wider (4 inches) than the plans hence the different rack, no doub't I'll have to extend it at some point.
Engine was secondhand 40,000miles from a fester and rebuilt.
Mike
[Edited on 16/11/14 by Mr C]
[Edited on 16/11/14 by Mr C]
Girl walks into a bar and asks for a double entendre, so the barman gave her one
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big_wasa
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| posted on 16/11/14 at 10:03 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by Mr CThough I'm not doing information overload or going too technical with the posts, as I'm from a non
engineering background and also fed up with the armchair critics and keyboard warriors,.. it is what it is.
That's a shame, although yours isn't a page by page book build I still keep looking for updates and inspiration.
I think there is about twice the fabrication of a traditional locost and It took me ten years to finish.
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Mr C
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| posted on 17/11/14 at 05:03 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by big_wasa
quote:
Originally posted by Mr CThough I'm not doing information overload or going too technical with the posts, as I'm from a non
engineering background and also fed up with the armchair critics and keyboard warriors,.. it is what it is.
That's a shame, although yours isn't a page by page book build I still keep looking for updates and inspiration.
I think there is about twice the fabrication of a traditional locost and It took me ten years to finish.
No worries Big Wasa,.. I'm not very tolerant of some of the twaddle thats posted at times so best to limit what I post.
I must say not so much on the Midlana Forum, Kurt and the guys are really helpful.. probably get back on it around xmas time, ripped a bathroom apart
and slowly piecing it back together as a wetroom, ended up more of a building job than a straight forward plumbing/refurb.
I'm touched that my ramblings offer some inspiration, indeed its great that someone takes the time to read them, thank you.
BTW the 3.0 V6 route is the way I would go if doing it again, with Jenveys and a aftermarket ECU, rumour has it should be good for around 300bhp. The
engine bay is better suited for a V6 imo. I've had to extend the engine bay a little to accomodate the plenum and the gearbox with wasted space
under the plenum
Girl walks into a bar and asks for a double entendre, so the barman gave her one
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andygtt
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| posted on 10/2/15 at 08:38 AM |
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quote:
Originally posted by Mr C
BTW the 3.0 V6 route is the way I would go if doing it again, with Jenveys and a aftermarket ECU, rumour has it should be good for around 300bhp. The
engine bay is better suited for a V6 imo. I've had to extend the engine bay a little to accomodate the plenum and the gearbox with wasted space
under the plenum
My Duratec V6 runs over 700bhp in my mid engine car so they are a very capable engine with loads of potential... Ive run over 600bhp in it for around
4 years now and its a road car with occasional track use.... I also use the ST220 gearbox with a few choice minor mods (steel bearing cases, oil
cooling etc).
Andy
please redefine your limits.
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bozla
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| posted on 28/2/15 at 10:25 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by bozla
I'm suprised there aren't more already as the 750 sports special regs dictate use of the engine as per the Eclipse. There is the FRS
arrow that the club is pushing but it uses the Fiesta drive train.
http://frsarrow.co.uk/
Midlana style would be the way I'd go personally.
The FRS has been converted to Duratec this year, so it'll be interesting to see how it does.
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