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posted on 20/8/10 at 06:38 PM Reply With Quote
What is the ultimate Track Car?? Atom/Cat/Lotus etc?

What would be the most fun car at a a track day if money was no object up to say £30K?

I keep going round in circles while drooling/dreaming over Pistonheads.
I start with Supercharged Atom, then a super powerful Caterham, then a Lotus 2-11, then I remember none of them are bike engined and so won't have a sequential box, so then wonder about a Caterham R500 with sequential box, but they seem iffy.....
Then I remember I'd be mad to spend £30k on a track toy, I'd be too nervous to thrash it.
So eventually I end up dreaming about supercharging my R1 Phoenix, but then it isn't much good for touring.
Then I look at Pistonheads ..........

Honestly, are there specialist shrinks for this kind of madness? It just won't leave me alone!!

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posted on 20/8/10 at 06:41 PM Reply With Quote
Or here's a thought, what if we could spend £30K on a kit car??
Would it kick the bottoms of the above?

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PSpirine

posted on 20/8/10 at 06:46 PM Reply With Quote
I'd say it depends what you mean by "ultimate track car".. there's different ways of having fun.

R32 Nissan Skyline GTR - 600-800hp easy, with a OS Giken 6-speed sequential box, 4wd it's absolutely warp speed. Serious.

Slightly different kettle of fish to the stripped out ones you've mentioned. Although looking at your requirements, I'd almost be tempted to build something for 30k so you can pick exactly what you want.

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cd.thomson

posted on 20/8/10 at 06:50 PM Reply With Quote
second hand ultima, you could even drive it to the track





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Wadders

posted on 20/8/10 at 06:57 PM Reply With Quote
I'd save up just a tiny bit more and buy a GT3 porker






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bi22le

posted on 20/8/10 at 07:13 PM Reply With Quote
GD T70.

Im obsessed with them at the mo and you could build one for £30K. Nothing tours like a sleeping V8!!





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D Beddows

posted on 20/8/10 at 07:18 PM Reply With Quote
30k? spend 7k of it on a decent 2nd hand RGB race car and the rest funding a couple of seasons proper racing, track days are ok but real racing is better

[Edited on 20/8/10 by D Beddows]






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posted on 20/8/10 at 07:45 PM Reply With Quote
The Atomic looks good and i was very impressed with the Warner R4 at North Weald





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A1

posted on 20/8/10 at 07:46 PM Reply With Quote
2nds on the used ultima...
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posted on 20/8/10 at 07:52 PM Reply With Quote
Just do as has been previously said in this thread and go racing!





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franky

posted on 20/8/10 at 07:56 PM Reply With Quote
gd t70 although having looked at the price list you need £40k to build one with a proper motor!!!
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posted on 20/8/10 at 09:44 PM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by A1
2nds on the used ultima...


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dilley

posted on 20/8/10 at 11:00 PM Reply With Quote
NOOOO!!! not the ultima!!
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Chet

posted on 21/8/10 at 01:52 AM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by D Beddows
30k? spend 7k of it on a decent 2nd hand RGB race car and the rest funding a couple of seasons proper racing, track days are ok but real racing is better

[Edited on 20/8/10 by D Beddows]


My suggestion is similar to the above but use a new Sylva J15 or R1ot instead of a 2nd hand RGB race car.
I strongly believe that the J15 will become a collector car in the next few years because it really is that good!
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bimbleuk

posted on 21/8/10 at 04:43 AM Reply With Quote
For overall handling, braking confidence and practicality I've yet to better my Elise S1 with a about 150BHP.

I tried hard with the Striker but I never felt I could chuck it around like the Elise. My most memorable track day was with a standard engine and road tyres. After that semi-slicks and loads of power made it more scary than anything!

My V8 engined RX7 is coming close and may even have the edge on braking. Very easy to powerslide too but I've yet to do a full track day. Just some hooning on an air field.

[Edited on 21-8-10 by bimbleuk]

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morcus

posted on 21/8/10 at 05:57 AM Reply With Quote
I'd really love ago at classic touring car racing and I'm sure they said on TG a few years back you could race a whole season for about £10K. If money was no object thats what I'd do. Thats actually a lie. If money was no object I'd build my own track.





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Ivan

posted on 21/8/10 at 07:01 AM Reply With Quote
Any car that handles predictably and well will be major fun on a track day - power and speed are of a lot less importance and are just bragging rights.

It is ober fun to drive a car on the track that allows you to choose between oversteer and neutral handling at will and still retain control - something not very easy and safe for the average driver to do in an overpowered supercar.

So get something like an Elise and with the savings maybe a BEC with turbo for the maniac in you.

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TimC

posted on 21/8/10 at 10:01 AM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by D Beddows
30k? spend 7k of it on a decent 2nd hand RGB race car and the rest funding a couple of seasons proper racing, track days are ok but real racing is better

[Edited on 20/8/10 by D Beddows]


It seems that Mr Beddows and I share more than having run Locost #41! He's dead right. And you already have the RGB car and the Cobra for touring. Just build a helicopter and you'll have something for every occassion!






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