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BATHO

posted on 23/4/10 at 04:11 PM Reply With Quote
Help needed with cooling issue!

Having a problem with cooling if anyone has any suggestions....Fan kicks in and out when standing and driven at normal speed, but when driven hard or at a constent high speed it stays on continuosly and the fan struggles to keep the temperature under control so i have to stop! I was thinking about putting louvers and holes in the top of the bonnet but i have noticed not everybody does this and i don't really want to hack my bonnet if this isn't the problem! i'm running a triumph spitfire 1500 with a cortina radiator and 15" fan with an adjustable fan switch and no heater , any ideas would be great
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dogwood

posted on 23/4/10 at 04:18 PM Reply With Quote
Cant say I can help with your prob.

But you defo dont need to cut holes
I run a 2.0 Pinto with a Polo rad.
I did a run dayb4 yesterday 22deg all day.
Round trip 200 miles, only time the fan came on was when i got home an was putting the car away.

Fan switches in at about 105deg.
Is your fan a sucker or blower.
Sometimes having the fan infront of the rad blocks the natural coolmng.





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Mark Allanson

posted on 23/4/10 at 04:26 PM Reply With Quote
I have a 2.0 pinto on a micra rad, so your cortina rad should keep the spit unit rrreally coool.

Have you checked for obstructions, airlocks etc, have the vanes on your water pump corroded away?

I cut vents in my bonnet to keep it cool when stuck in traffic, but made no difference at all so don't bother.





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russbost

posted on 23/4/10 at 04:45 PM Reply With Quote
One thing which can make a truly massive difference, particularly when on the move is if you have the air ducted to the rad so it can' t escape or "leak" round the rad sides - same goes for the fan on the other side, if it can draw air other than thro' the rad you'll waste tons of cooling effect. One further thin is that the hot air needs to be able to escape somewhere & it will want to rise rather than go down beneath the car, so you may need some louvres, but would defo try the ducting/sealing solution first.





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BATHO

posted on 23/4/10 at 04:49 PM Reply With Quote
Fan is a sucker type and i've just fitted a new water pump. I was going to up grade to a polo rad and exspansion tank but not sure if this would make much difference!
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BATHO

posted on 23/4/10 at 04:53 PM Reply With Quote
Russbost, i have about 25mm gap around my radiator would this make a massive difference?
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britishtrident

posted on 23/4/10 at 06:33 PM Reply With Quote
Simples problem is down to ignition timing being way to retarded - Check the centrifugal advance is working (also very sparingly lubricated the mechanism and twist the shaft clockwise and counter clockwise a few times) ) , gap the points to 0.015" and set the ignition timing properly.

With things like this you have learn to see the wood from the trees, and not jump to the conclusion it is a radiator or air flow or water flow issue. If the ignition is too retarded you get a massive increase in the heat energy rejected to the cooling system and exhaust system especially as the crankshaft speed increases.






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prawnabie

posted on 23/4/10 at 06:49 PM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by russbost
One thing which can make a truly massive difference, particularly when on the move is if you have the air ducted to the rad so it can' t escape or "leak" round the rad sides - same goes for the fan on the other side, if it can draw air other than thro' the rad you'll waste tons of cooling effect. One further thin is that the hot air needs to be able to escape somewhere & it will want to rise rather than go down beneath the car, so you may need some louvres, but would defo try the ducting/sealing solution first.


I agree with the ducting suggestion - that alone made the difference between the fan coming on at below 20mph on my car and it only coming on when stuck in traffic for a few mins.

Shaun

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russbost

posted on 27/4/10 at 05:49 PM Reply With Quote
Batho, I would say a 25mm gap is certainly enough to make a significant difference, particularly at higher speeds - whether it's enough to cure your prob ...............????





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cliftyhanger

posted on 8/5/10 at 07:38 AM Reply With Quote
Bit late in but......
unless the rad is badly blocked (possible?) or severe airlocks, then it should easily cool a spitfire. In fact the fan shouldn't be needed at all when moving.......
As above the problem is bound to be with the engine tuning, so check that first.

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