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Rob Lane

posted on 17/8/08 at 11:42 AM Reply With Quote
Fixed IP and camera with BT Biz Hub

I'm getting a bit fed up with this now. I'm quite computer savvy but this problem has me stumped.

BT Biz Hub. I have 5 fixed WAN IPs.
I have a camera server on a LAN.

Now, I've left the hub as Dynamic IP on WAN and attempted to port forward the firewall ports 80 and 4321 for the camera.
It won't work. It seems to allow it in menu but not actually open the ports associated with the camera on the LAN.
Using the WAN address it will not access the camera from a remote location.

Second I tried allocating a fixed WAN IP to the hub. It will not accept the address and claims it is invalid. Even BT can't help here.
Seems I have 5 addresses for nothing with this hub. Don't want to change the hub as it's performance is excellent both on line and wireless.

It's the latest HGV2700. There is no help on a search of net.

Any ideas anyone?

[Edited on 17/8/08 by Rob Lane]

[Edited on 17/8/08 by Rob Lane]

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ecosse

posted on 17/8/08 at 12:01 PM Reply With Quote
More questions than answers at the moment, but, I take it you are trying to access the camera from the WAN to your LAN?

What subnet mask are you using when you try and assign a fixed IP to the WAN interface of the router?
How do you assign LAN IP's, i.e. via DHCP off the router?
Are you sure you are trying to connect to the correct WAN IP (sorry, had to ask )
Is the router also setup to filter outgoing traffic (may be blocking the cam return packet requests?)

I'm not familiar with that router, but does it have a DMZ capability?
If so you could stick the cam on the DMZ with one of your external IP's and access it that way?

Cheers

Alex

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Ivan

posted on 17/8/08 at 12:38 PM Reply With Quote
Geeks

Must be because I didn't understand a word of either postings.

But then again you can't be because you are on this forum after all

I'm confused - which are you?

[Edited on 17/8/08 by Ivan]






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Rob Lane

posted on 17/8/08 at 12:58 PM Reply With Quote
Yes, trying to access camera from WAN.

Subnet is 255.255.255.0

Reading rest of post.

LAN ip from router range, set at -.-.-.100
and set as fixed on LAN.

Yes right WAN IP, the router always displays this fortunately.

Not thought of outgoing filtering ! Will check to-morrow. I'm at remote location now, not at router site.

Didn't want to set up DMZ as yet till I can figure out how it should be normally.

I now think that I have this all wrong somehow. I am correct in assuming I can set one of the fixed IPs as the Public (WAN)IP on the router. i.e. a static public IP?

[Edited on 17/8/08 by Rob Lane]

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Rob Lane

posted on 17/8/08 at 01:04 PM Reply With Quote
Ivan,

it's all just acronyms, I don't know what I'm on about, it's a bluff

Rob

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the_fbi

posted on 17/8/08 at 02:04 PM Reply With Quote
On our BT setup with 5 statics, you get 1 IP for the ADSL router, then a group of 5 (totally different to the router one) for your statics.

If you setup your IP camera to be one of your static IPs, you shouldn't need any port forwarding at all, as effectively the camera will sit on the public IP. You will however need to unblock the ports it accepts incoming connections on.

You'll then just access it from the WAN side using its (one of the 5 static) IP.

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ecosse

posted on 17/8/08 at 02:40 PM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Rob Lane
Yes, trying to access camera from WAN.

Subnet is 255.255.255.0

Reading rest of post.

LAN ip from router range, set at -.-.-.100
and set as fixed on LAN.

Yes right WAN IP, the router always displays this fortunately.

Not thought of outgoing filtering ! Will check to-morrow. I'm at remote location now, not at router site.

Didn't want to set up DMZ as yet till I can figure out how it should be normally.

I now think that I have this all wrong somehow. I am correct in assuming I can set one of the fixed IPs as the Public (WAN)IP on the router. i.e. a static public IP?

[Edited on 17/8/08 by Rob Lane]


The problem is your subnet mask, for you to have an allocated range if IP's you need a custumised subnet i.e. 255.255.255.248

You can set and use any of your allocated IP's, but only with the correct subnet mask or it won't work.
I am guessing that your mask is .248 by the IP range you have, but you should be able to see this when the router DHCP's it's IP, go to "status" and check though.

Hope this helps a bit

Cheers

Alex
PS
Ivan - both

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joneh

posted on 17/8/08 at 04:27 PM Reply With Quote
If you need any recording software give me a shout.

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Rob Lane

posted on 18/8/08 at 03:41 PM Reply With Quote
Thanks all.

I gave up on the firewall ports and the fixed IP.

I've set it in DMZ mode and allowed dhcp and it has allocated the WAN IP to it and set it's own firewall rules for other computers.

I can even access it on my mobile

Just have to track it for a while to check it doesn't change the public IP often.

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Rob Lane

posted on 19/8/08 at 08:47 AM Reply With Quote
Arghhhh, can't believe it

Wife was viewing camera remotely before I set off back and all was OK.

Get home and the damn thing will not show now.

Checked this morning with the camera location and nothing has changed. All settings the same and they can watch the camera locally using the WAN IP address.

DMZ is on, IP is allocated, firewall is open,
camera has same ip, so why no connection ?

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RoadkillUK

posted on 19/8/08 at 11:35 AM Reply With Quote
Get orf my Land <-- Link

I have one of them too, caught me a couple of thieving b'stards.

joneh, any idea why you get such a good FPS? Mine is terrible and my other camera (not shown) is more like 3 secs a frame!

This is pic from Yesterday (18th) of some thieving pikey, not content with the scrap I left him (back of locost) he routes around the back yard, and takes my Trolley Jack.

I caught him up about 1/2 hour later and took my stuff back.








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Rob Lane

posted on 19/8/08 at 06:10 PM Reply With Quote
OK, now I'm baffled.

My own browser will not show anything but on my WAP enabled phone I can access it

Someone please try 81.136.28.199 and see if a password request screen pops up.

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RoadkillUK

posted on 19/8/08 at 06:33 PM Reply With Quote
Hi Rob, just tried it for you and a window opens up for a username and password.

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Rob Lane

posted on 19/8/08 at 08:07 PM Reply With Quote
Well I found what is wrong but can't figure out what it is.

The security log in my router here shows the IP blocked as Black List(e)

But what is blocking it ? Norton Security ? or router firewall ?

Router does not seem to have an 'allow site' feature, unless I'm missing it.

Same for Norton, I can't find it in that either.

Helpppp

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Rob Lane

posted on 19/8/08 at 08:34 PM Reply With Quote
It's the router. I tried another computer on my network which doesn't have anti virus (it's not normally on network) and the router still logs the acces as Black List.
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Rob Lane

posted on 20/8/08 at 10:27 AM Reply With Quote
OK I've given in.

During the night the camera crashed the biz network.

I had to remove it this morning to get the network back to normal.

Don't buy an Edimax IP camera with built in server

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