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stevebubs

posted on 10/8/09 at 12:07 PM Reply With Quote
Garden Drains

Garden Fence
Garden Fence


Put up a fence last year to prevent the dog going on the grass so that it would always be clean for the kids to play on (dog allowed on supervised)

However, now SWMBO has started cleaning the patio, the runoff is killing the grass.

Am considering putting some of the linear drainage things in across this side of the fence. However, there is nothing I can connect it to in order to ensure it empties out in quick order.

Any plumbers/gardeners have any ideas?

Cheers

Stephen

[Edited on 10/8/09 by stevebubs]

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Ben_Copeland

posted on 10/8/09 at 12:13 PM Reply With Quote
What about drilling holes (largish) in the bottom of the drainage channels?





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posted on 10/8/09 at 12:13 PM Reply With Quote
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steve m

posted on 10/8/09 at 12:24 PM Reply With Quote
lose the dog ?
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stevebubs

posted on 10/8/09 at 12:32 PM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Ben_Copeland
What about drilling holes (largish) in the bottom of the drainage channels?


That's the current line of thinking. Just not sure how quick it would drain away....

[Edited on 10/8/09 by stevebubs]

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stevebubs

posted on 10/8/09 at 12:33 PM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by steve m
lose the dog ?


More tempting than you might imagine...but it's her dog...

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Guinness

posted on 10/8/09 at 12:36 PM Reply With Quote
You'll need a soak away (IMHO).

You can either dig a big hole at one end of the drain run (say 1000 x 1000 x 600) fill it with gravel and then run the water from the linear drain into that, or you could dig a long trench alongside the edge of the patio and use one of the slotted land drain pipes in there, connecting it into the linear drain at regular intervals. Back fill with gravel, put top soil over, grass back ontop.





See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/French_drain

You can get it ex stock from big B&Q's if you don't fancy the builders merchants.


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nick205

posted on 10/8/09 at 12:50 PM Reply With Quote
What's she cleaning the patio with...?

Might be easier to adjust the cleaning method rather than digging the garden up

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stevebubs

posted on 10/8/09 at 01:08 PM Reply With Quote
Apparently "Flash All In One" is the only stuff she has that clears the doo doo smell...
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nick205

posted on 10/8/09 at 01:13 PM Reply With Quote
Nappy for the dog?

Wellies for the kids?

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Mr Whippy

posted on 10/8/09 at 01:14 PM Reply With Quote
with kids you should be use to these...







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Mr Whippy

posted on 10/8/09 at 01:16 PM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by nick205
Nappy for the dog?

Wellies for the kids?


damn beaten to it

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britishtrident

posted on 10/8/09 at 01:17 PM Reply With Quote
I would guess whatever is being used to clean the patio contains a bleach, although it will prevent moss and algae and kill weeds and the proverbial 99% of all known germs it is really bad for the environment.

Use a more dilute bleach and applying it by brush not using a sparyer will be effective without acting like agent orange.


You can also buy mould and moss killer in 5 litre containers that you dilute and apply once a season with the aid of a watering can and a deck scrubber or brush ---- builders merchants sell it as do industrial cleaning supplie shops or you can get it off the internet.

To keep weed and moss down round the edges of my slabs I use one of the weed burners -- ie a gas blow lamp on a stick.

[Edited on 10/8/09 by britishtrident]





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stevebubs

posted on 10/8/09 at 04:09 PM Reply With Quote
Really need to apply it 2/3 times a week to keep the smell away...once a season could make the garden pretty pongy...
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stevebubs

posted on 10/8/09 at 09:19 PM Reply With Quote
Whatabout just putting a 600mm deep soakaway underneath the drain units?

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coozer

posted on 10/8/09 at 09:41 PM Reply With Quote
As Mike suggested, a trench lined with something? along the edge filled with gravel to act as a wee sump.. its just about giving a boundary for the dogs sterilising solution.

Or, extend the paving under the fence??

[Edited on 10/8/09 by coozer]





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stevebubs

posted on 11/8/09 at 01:19 AM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by coozer
As Mike suggested, a trench lined with something? along the edge filled with gravel to act as a wee sump.. its just about giving a boundary for the dogs sterilising solution.




Think I'll run with that - dig out the edge of the patio as deep as I can and fill it with gravel...then stick a linear drain on top to make it "look nice"

quote:

Or, extend the paving under the fence??

[Edited on 10/8/09 by coozer]


This would just push the problem further out into the garden...fence was deliberately put up with a gap....

[Edited on 11/8/09 by stevebubs]

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wilkingj

posted on 11/8/09 at 08:22 AM Reply With Quote
You could put in a "French Drain"

Cut out a 10" deep channel along the side of the patio. Put a PVC Pipe in the bottom with Holes in the pipe. Then covered with gravel. These are very effective.

However you will need to feed it into a soakaway. As already said above 1metre or deeper cube hole filled with some rouble, then stones and finally soil and turf on top. Make sure its all tamped down so it doesnt subside. You make the soakaway in a corner of the lawn away from the patio and buildings etc.

Just a thought.

Personally I would buy a BBQ and put the dog on it. Cheaper, tastier, and a lot less digging






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