marktigere1
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| posted on 3/6/04 at 08:33 AM |
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Top Gear
As a novice to Kit Cars I have found this site to be informative and a great laugh. Many thanks.
This rant is about Top Gear which I have always thought to be the best car program on TV. However, I run a Rover 216 Gti Twin Cam (130 BHP Honda
engine!! One of the best) and had to sit through Clarkson and co buying a 416 Gti (115Bhp single cam) for £75 and then slagging off the car in every
way possible. We arn't all lucky enough to drive Porches and Aston Martins every week!!.
I have driven enough GTi's to know that the Rover (actually a Honda CRX/Civic underneath) is a fab drivers car and handles very well. Ask
anyone who's raced one!!! I've had lots of offers from people wanting it as a track day car! (With a 7250 red line I'm not
surprised!!)
Sorry to rant but I had to get that off my chest. It really Pi**ed me off as its wiped more value off the car.
Anyway, on with the Kit Car choice GTS/MK/GTS/MK Hmmmm!!
If a bolt is stuck force it.
If it breaks, it needed replacing anyway!!!
(My Dad 1991)
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ChrisW
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| posted on 3/6/04 at 08:54 AM |
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Friend of mine used to say the same thing about his Metro. We didn't believe him either 
Chris
My gaff my rules
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theconrodkid
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| posted on 3/6/04 at 09:03 AM |
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who might that be chris????
who cares who wins
pass the pork pies
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ChrisW
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| posted on 3/6/04 at 09:03 AM |
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The main dealer 'head gasket' man 
Chris
My gaff my rules
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marktigere1
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| posted on 3/6/04 at 09:09 AM |
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Don't know of many Metro's with a Honda Twin Cam under the bonnet??
Shame it rotates the wrong way for a type 9 gearbox!!!
If a bolt is stuck force it.
If it breaks, it needed replacing anyway!!!
(My Dad 1991)
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mangogroove
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| posted on 3/6/04 at 09:25 AM |
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quote:
Originally posted by marktigere1
Don't know of many Metro's with a Honda Twin Cam under the bonnet??
Shame it rotates the wrong way for a type 9 gearbox!!!
the boys in Yankie land use that s2000 box (HoNda) to go the other way
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andkilde
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| posted on 3/6/04 at 11:53 AM |
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Hmmn, do gearboxes near to spin the "correct" way? Or could you just get away with using a standard box and a flipped ring gear in your
diff?
Plenty of cheap speed parts for those Honda engines...
Cheers, Ted
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mackie
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| posted on 3/6/04 at 12:01 PM |
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It was still by far the fastest round the track, and it was the Stig's fave of the bunch.
But it was basically a shagged, old car.
They joked about it being a rover but then what do you expect.
In the mag they slag the other 2 cars off just as much.
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marktigere1
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| posted on 3/6/04 at 12:06 PM |
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Would be interesting what 'the Stig' would have done in mine. Close ratio box, lower suspension, twin cam Honda and all as standard!!!
Shame Rover has such a bad image.
If a bolt is stuck force it.
If it breaks, it needed replacing anyway!!!
(My Dad 1991)
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Noodle
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| posted on 3/6/04 at 12:14 PM |
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This weeks programme features the V8 rear-drive 75.
Now that's a Rover worth thinking about.
Cheers,
Neil.
Your sort make me sick
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stephen_gusterson
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| posted on 3/6/04 at 12:20 PM |
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I always liked that model of the 200 / 400 - had one for a week - 214 - and it went really well for a lowly 1.4.
dont take clarkson too seriously.
do you really think people with money drive ferraris like w%^nkers like they do on that program?
Its a caricature not real life.
Im sure the rover cityrover isnt that bad either..... not that id buy one
atb
steve
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Noodle
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| posted on 3/6/04 at 12:30 PM |
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Clarkson
Mate of mine's a producer at the Beeb in London. She says he has absolute power over that programme. He demanded his producer be sacked during
the current-incarnation of the TG format. And she was.
She says he's got a massive ego and is very rude, but is bloody good at his job so no-one cars.
My six year old finds him very funny. I think that just about sums up the intellectual pitch it's aimed at.
Hang on, I enjoy the programme. <soul searching>What does that say about me?
Cheers,
Neil.
</soul searching>
Your sort make me sick
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marktigere1
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| posted on 3/6/04 at 12:59 PM |
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Clarkson certainly puts fear into car manufacturers. Look what he did to Rover? His comments about Honda are not always great either.
Thank God for sites like this where real people with real cars actually communicate with each other.
This soap box is high!!
If a bolt is stuck force it.
If it breaks, it needed replacing anyway!!!
(My Dad 1991)
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nicklondon
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| posted on 3/6/04 at 01:04 PM |
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Is the stig still Perry McCarthy?
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splitrivet
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| posted on 3/6/04 at 01:12 PM |
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Its entertainment but it aint about cars anymore,well not the type the Mr average drives anyroad.
They should just call it the Clarkson ego show
Cheers,
Bob
I used to be a Werewolf but I'm alright nowwoooooooooooooo
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ned
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| posted on 3/6/04 at 01:27 PM |
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I had a chat with Mr Clarkson when I went to the filming of top gear about a year ago. I said I was building a kitcar and he said that his wife had
built a caterham. apart from that and the fact that he obviuosly earns far too much money to be able to afford nice cars he seemed ok to me.
Ned.
beware, I've got yellow skin
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Considerably
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| posted on 3/6/04 at 01:38 PM |
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Yes, his wife had a Caterham for some time (miserable bastard that she is ) and used to do the endurance rallies in it. Think she did the
Liege-Targa-Liege a few times. Has an Elise now I think ?
Top girl !
The Beeb don't make Top Gear, it is an independant company (hence some of the budgetary stuff is real) that sells it too them.
They don't actually have planning permission to do what they do on Dunsfold aerodrome, so a lot of locals get tickets as "hush
money".
So if you want tickets, just say you live up the road !
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theconrodkid
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| posted on 3/6/04 at 02:02 PM |
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clarkson was a hero of mine,i think they have lost the plot,playing darts,crashing caravans etc,what happened to testing real cars we can all
afford.
the city rover probly is worse than they said,ever seen a car that the indians built?qc whats that???
who cares who wins
pass the pork pies
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kingr
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| posted on 3/6/04 at 02:06 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by Considerably
The Beeb don't make Top Gear, it is an independant company (hence some of the budgetary stuff is real) that sells it too them.
Shock horror! All that money on an expensive education, and you can't even use "to" and "too" properly!
Kingr
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Considerably
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| posted on 3/6/04 at 02:13 PM |
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Not sure education level and dyslexia have a link ...
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marktigere1
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| posted on 3/6/04 at 03:17 PM |
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I don't know what Rover are doing with the City Rover. I'm not sure if Honda are still on board. Having owned 2 GTi's
(Honda's) and a 214 (K series) I would go for the Honda every time.
It seems that Rover give Clarkson lots of ammo. Bet next weeks show slags off the Rover V8!! What engine is in that? (Honda/Rover/TVR????)
If a bolt is stuck force it.
If it breaks, it needed replacing anyway!!!
(My Dad 1991)
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Noodle
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| posted on 3/6/04 at 04:12 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by marktigere1
I don't know what Rover are doing with the City Rover. I'm not sure if Honda are still on board. Having owned 2 GTi's
(Honda's) and a 214 (K series) I would go for the Honda every time.
It seems that Rover give Clarkson lots of ammo. Bet next weeks show slags off the Rover V8!! What engine is in that? (Honda/Rover/TVR????)
Ford V8. See http://www.locostbuilders.co.uk/viewthread.php?tid=13801
Cheers,
Neil.
Your sort make me sick
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Browser
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| posted on 3/6/04 at 07:27 PM |
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The reason Flop Rear and Fifth Beer and all of the motoring programs annoy me is that they assume you have more money to spend than you do i.e. they
will do a report on the best family car for £12,000, or the best cheap runabout for £4000 etc. Or they will rubbish most of the popular family saloons
because they get nice review cars to drive all the time. They are out of touch with reality unfortunately, but equally unfotunately no-one would tune
in to watch them be nice about Mondeos or Vectras, it just isn't good telly
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stephen_gusterson
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| posted on 3/6/04 at 09:52 PM |
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bmw dropped honda with no warning when they bought the company, so i expect, with the japanese mentality, the bridge was well and truly
burnt........no honor.
has no one else noted the law breaking on top gear? there was summat I dont remember from the last prog, and that race to the south of france against
the train had to be breaking limits.
Just imagine if we found out about a french program where they were racing at illegal speeds up the m6......
atb
steve
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James
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| posted on 3/6/04 at 10:37 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by theconrodkid
clarkson was a hero of mine,i think they have lost the plot,playing darts,crashing caravans etc,what happened to testing real cars we can all
afford.
Bear in mind they have to fill hour long show now. 
James
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