mangogrooveworkshop
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| posted on 10/1/12 at 07:43 PM |
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Going over to the DARKSIDE with a ST1300
Just looking at getting one soon as my license is sat.
I was looking at kitcars again but we want to get back out on the road. I miss my BEC which was crashed a few years back and the insurance
fookup.
I can get finance to buy the honda , some thing i cant get on a kit unless I go for westy or cat and possibly wont have any where to keep it
The storage foot print is the other factor .
Has anyone got a st
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Dangle_kt
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| posted on 10/1/12 at 07:51 PM |
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I had an old st1100.
It was ace on the motorway, smooth, powerful, and no wind - I had a very trick screen with laminar lip etc, I could have my lid open at 70 and not
feel the wind!
Handles ...ok...but it was a bit of a grotty bike in terms of suspension, and was in need of refresh.
Panniers were a FLIPPIN nightmare - why design panniers that wobble about and leak?
Harder to filter on a big bike like that.
Two up was fine, just dont ever loose your footing on gravel at the lights/junction - picking it up is next to impossible (I never dropped it, but had
a few close calls, and holding it on the tipping point nearly gave me a hernia!)
st1300 seems better in everyway (except the police version...)
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StevieB
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| posted on 10/1/12 at 07:52 PM |
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I can thoroughly see the sense in replacing a kit with a bike - I've done that myself.
But with an ST? Truly moving to the very darkest side indeed 
PS - Dangle, the same guy must have design Triumph panniers too. Good crash guards though!
[Edited on 10/1/12 by StevieB]
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mangogrooveworkshop
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| posted on 10/1/12 at 08:22 PM |
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Its for touring and weekends away up in Scotland. We want a smooth tourer- local running aint really going to happen as we tend to use the wagon or
golfish car.
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StevieB
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| posted on 10/1/12 at 08:25 PM |
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That's what I use my Tirumph Tiger for - nice smooth engine, plenty low down grunt and the high riding position gives a great view of the road
ahead.
Not been two up yet though - my wife isn't a good passenger at the best of times (easily gets travel sick) and doesn't fancy the idea of
it much (she hated the se7en too).
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Simon
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| posted on 10/1/12 at 08:27 PM |
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As i've mentioned on here before, chap I used to know loved Pans. He reckoned he'd done 1/4 million miles on them touring all over the
place including down to north Africa. Good bikes by all accounts. Downside was it took him 7 hours to change the headlight bulb
ATB
Simon
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mangogrooveworkshop
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| posted on 10/1/12 at 08:35 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by Simon
As i've mentioned on here before, chap I used to know loved Pans. He reckoned he'd done 1/4 million miles on them touring all over the
place including down to north Africa. Good bikes by all accounts. Downside was it took him 7 hours to change the headlight bulb
ATB
Simon
thats not long .....
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fazerruss
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| posted on 10/1/12 at 08:46 PM |
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This is the ST you should get....
 
Description
Ticks all the boxes
"if assholes could fly this place would be an airport"
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mangogrooveworkshop
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| posted on 10/1/12 at 08:54 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by fazerruss
This is the ST you should get....
Description
Ticks all the boxes
my licence matters to me and too much powers a problem cause I will use it
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Simon
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| posted on 10/1/12 at 10:38 PM |
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Don't worry - anything with more than about 100bhp even two up has higher power to weight ratio better than 99% of sportscars, so your licence
is still greatly at risk
ATB
Simon
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locoboy
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| posted on 11/1/12 at 12:14 AM |
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My bike of choice had I the license of the money to do it!
ATB
Locoboy
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owelly
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| posted on 11/1/12 at 01:27 AM |
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I had a ride on an ST1300 and it wasn't for me at all!! I didn't like the wallowyness and the way it flopped into corners slightly before
I wanted it to and the way the tyres seems to be working against each other! I didn't like the way it squirmed when you wound-on the power from
anything other than upright or tried to understeer. I didn't like the size of the thing or the high CofG. Apart from those things, it was
OK.......
To be fair, if it was my bike, I may have been able to change the tyres (and pressures) and tweaked the suspension, but for me, I'd rather have
several other bikes first!! Plenty of folks love them so perhaps I'm just not one of Pans people.
http://www.ppcmag.co.uk
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mangogrooveworkshop
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| posted on 11/1/12 at 09:43 AM |
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quote:
Originally posted by owelly
I had a ride on an ST1300 and it wasn't for me at all!! I didn't like the wallowyness and the way it flopped into corners slightly before
I wanted it to and the way the tyres seems to be working against each other! I didn't like the way it squirmed when you wound-on the power from
anything other than upright or tried to understeer. I didn't like the size of the thing or the high CofG. Apart from those things, it was
OK.......
To be fair, if it was my bike, I may have been able to change the tyres (and pressures) and tweaked the suspension, but for me, I'd rather have
several other bikes first!! Plenty of folks love them so perhaps I'm just not one of Pans people.
Ive also looked at the touring bmws even the odd gold wing has been looked at but goldwing is way over the top and you are in car territory
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MikeCapon
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| posted on 11/1/12 at 10:25 AM |
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If you do buy a Pan, either an 1100 or a 1300, both of them are transformed with a proper shock absorber fitted.
Particularly the 1100 where the OE shock is a hideous and very basic affair.
I love these kind of bikes as the difference in behaviour is so huge, even the least sensitve customers are made up.
In around 4 weeks I could even make you one.
Cheers,
Mike
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mangogrooveworkshop
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| posted on 11/1/12 at 10:28 AM |
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quote:
Originally posted by MikeCapon
If you do buy a Pan, either an 1100 or a 1300, both of them are transformed with a proper shock absorber fitted.
Particularly the 1100 where the OE shock is a hideous and very basic affair.
I love these kind of bikes as the difference in behaviour is so huge, even the least sensitve customers are made up.
In around 4 weeks I could even make you one.
Cheers,
Mike
They have a huge following so i think the problems with the design get iorned out quickly
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