Badger_McLetcher
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| posted on 27/12/14 at 01:41 PM |
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Advice on some circuitry!
Hi guys, I'm hoping someone on hear can help me with a circuit I'm trying to build - I've said I'll have a crack at modifying
my mates airsoft gun to give it a single shot mode controlled electrically.
My first version has the motor power flowing through a Mosfet which is activated for a limited time by a capacitor discharging through a resistor
when the trigger is pulled. When the trigger is released the capacitor recharges ready for the next shot, and the length of time the motor runs is
determined by the relationship between the capacitor and the resistor.
The big issue with this set up is that as the charge in the battery decreases so does the length of time the Mosfet activates for, and also the motor
runs slower, with the end result that the motor doesn't complete a full shot. I can tweak the capacitor and resistor to compensate for this, but
then it tends to fire more than once on a full charge!
Is there any way around this? I'm wondering if increasing the capacitance (and reducing the resistance suitably) would make it less sensitive
to voltage changes? Or is there a better way that I haven't thought of?
Cheers guys 
[Edited on 27/12/14 by Badger_McLetcher]
If disfunction is a function, then I must be some kind of genius.
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HowardB
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| posted on 27/12/14 at 02:44 PM |
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I would suggest making the timing part of the circuit voltage independent by having a voltage regulator. .. 7805 or something. Then as long as the
battery was higher than Vreg+0.7v then the timer circuit would always give the same times.
Hth 
Howard
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theprisioner
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| posted on 27/12/14 at 03:24 PM |
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555 timer these are constant current devices regardless of supply voltage.
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bi22le
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| posted on 27/12/14 at 03:40 PM |
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I would of thought that a more timing specific chip like the 555 would work better for this. There are others but I'm rusty on this non
programmable side of circuit building.
The 555 will have a chandler timed output method which matt allow for a three spot burst of the gun allows it
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tegwin
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| posted on 27/12/14 at 04:05 PM |
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http://555-timer-circuits.uk/operation/one-shot.html
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theprisioner
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| posted on 27/12/14 at 04:32 PM |
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Love that web site, now that is a contribution!
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Badger_McLetcher
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| posted on 27/12/14 at 05:27 PM |
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Awesome, cheers guys! Looks like I've got a bit more research to do I've only got a limited amount of space to play with so it may be
fun trying to fit the timer in
[Edited on 27/12/14 by Badger_McLetcher]
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theprisioner
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| posted on 27/12/14 at 06:03 PM |
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Surface mount?
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HowardB
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| posted on 27/12/14 at 06:04 PM |
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space,... pah 
This is my radio microphone,
 
fist_mic
standard on the outside, but contains amongst other things:
Parrot - audio recording and playback device
Vox - voice activated transmit switching
auto repeat for the parrot - with variable interval timing (surface mount 555)
hard switch audio lines - to isolate the live mic when the parrot is "talking"
hard switch transmit line - to ensure fully switched transmitter
some tape, some blutack, and a press to talk switch......
the device in the foreground in focus is a 700mA opto-isolated relay for the transmit line switching
Oh and it was first built in 1995 and has been modified a few times since,...
I am sure that there is a more tidy solution, but this one is very organic
[Edited on 27/12/14 by HowardB]
Howard
Fisher Fury was 2000 Zetec - now a 1600 (it Lives again and goes zoom)
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theprisioner
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| posted on 27/12/14 at 06:41 PM |
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I believe Vero board is your solution.
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02GF74
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| posted on 28/12/14 at 04:23 PM |
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Pretty sure single 555 timer is available in 8 pin DIL package, couple of resistoras and capicitors would fit in area of 5p coin.
You can wire up without using a circuit board to save space then encase in a cube of potting compound
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nero1701
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| posted on 28/12/14 at 05:51 PM |
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http://www.electronics-tutorials.ws/waveforms/monostable.html
Here is a useful page for alternatives to the overly relied upon 555..
555 great IC but eats power compared to modern equivalents.
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