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BenB

posted on 15/8/07 at 05:05 PM Reply With Quote
This car is mad!!

Majorly crazy camber car
Majorly crazy camber car


From ClassicCars......
Bizarre design feature! I love it!!

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TGR-ECOSSE

posted on 15/8/07 at 05:24 PM Reply With Quote
Its a Milliken MX1 and was featured in last months Racecar engineering mag and was also at the Goodwood festival of speed.
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NS Dev

posted on 15/8/07 at 05:27 PM Reply With Quote
hmmm very odd, and quite mad indeed!!!

Whoever designed it had no clue what they were doing, or it was not designed for the bike tyres that are on it in the photo!!!!

The only "cornering stability" (as said in the text) that negative camber gives is by allowing full use of the available contact patch at the tyre tucks under during cornering..........

unfortunately a radiused bike tyre has the same contact patch at all useable angles!!

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speedyxjs

posted on 15/8/07 at 05:35 PM Reply With Quote
i like it





How long can i resist the temptation to drop a V8 in?

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TGR-ECOSSE

posted on 15/8/07 at 05:49 PM Reply With Quote
I don't have the magazine handy but i think the car was built in the sixties by Bill Milliken who was a bit of an engineering genius. He built it to test camber angles etc. The tyres on the car are modern ones just to get it on show. The article in racecar engineering was very interesting so if somebody has the mag to hand they could tell you more.






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NS Dev

posted on 15/8/07 at 05:56 PM Reply With Quote
That's probably it then, if it were fitted with narrow crossply racing tyres then the camber angles would be doing something (heaven knows what, but certainly something!! )





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t.j.

posted on 15/8/07 at 07:29 PM Reply With Quote

He needs does tyres, wouldn't dare to drive it on normal radial tyres.

So where's that book about camber





Please feel free to correct my bad English, i'm still learning. Your Dutch is awfull! :-)

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Duncan_P

posted on 15/8/07 at 07:59 PM Reply With Quote
I believe that William Milliken actually drove it up the hill at FOS this year.... he must be into his nineties by now.

He does actually know what he is doing, infact in his time he was one of the leading people in suspension design and is the founder of Milliken Research.

I believe that the car in question was built as a design excercise above anything else just to prove a point.

A bit more about him can be found here

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TGR-ECOSSE

posted on 15/8/07 at 09:14 PM Reply With Quote
Thanks Duncan-P. If anybody gets a chance to read about the car its an amazing story and i think it would be of interest to most people on here.
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Volvorsport

posted on 15/8/07 at 09:43 PM Reply With Quote
wrote the book milliken and milliken , its the bible for most people in Auto Engineering .





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