kikingriffin
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 posted on 8/2/04 at 07:18 PM |
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vauxhall 2ltr 16v turbo into locost?
will it fit and how hard will it be what needs doing?
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200mph
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| posted on 8/2/04 at 07:39 PM |
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yes, hard and a lot!
yes, hard and a lot!
yes, hard and a lot!
does that answer your three posts?
I think there would be other more sensible options, as a bespoke turbo system would be in the £1000's (probably more). Custom manifolds,
pistons, con-rods, crankshaft, reworked head, new management, several new sensors etc etc etc.
Also, am sure others disagree, but I would suggest a turbocharged wngine isnt best suited to a locost-type car. N/A all the way for me
best of luck
Mark
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Stu16v
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| posted on 8/2/04 at 07:54 PM |
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Yes, it will fit, just. There is the odd Caterham or two floating around with them in.
As to how hard it will be I dont know for sure, although the majority of the installation is the same as the N/A 16v.
You will need a bellhousing conversion for a type 9 Sierra gearbox, or the VX Manta/Carlton gearbox. However, I wouldnt like to guarentee how long
either of them would last with the extra power of the C20LET. The Sierra gearbox offers more choice for upgrades/extra strength. If using a Ford
gearbox, you will need to use a Sierra 2.3 diesel clutch plate, with the standard VX cover. The LET engine is likely to have the 'pot'
type flywheel, which is heavier, and IIRC you will need to change it for the earlier type when doing a Ford gearbox conversion.
You will need to modify a sump off an 8v
VX engine, or buy a lowered item from the likes of SBD, QED, Yukspeed, Westfield etc.
Engine mounts are not a problem, again they can be bought or made.
According to the chassis design/engine position, the oil filter *may* be a bit 'exposed'. A remote fitting kit can be purchased, or use a
filter off a Reno Fuego.
I cant help with any more detail unfortunately, other than it is going to be tight for room.
HTH Stu.
Dont just build it.....make it!
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andrew-theasby
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| posted on 8/2/04 at 08:05 PM |
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Problems i can think of would be the heat in the engine bay and making a suitable manifold so the exhaust points in the right direction and the charge
pipe runs where theres enough room to route it. It should be possible as there are cars with this engine in but i would think cosworth power would
make an easier choice of gearbox for that kind of power.
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Ben_Copeland
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| posted on 8/2/04 at 08:41 PM |
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I've got a picture of one somewhere.... as Stu says caterham did it.
Ben
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Ben_Copeland
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| posted on 8/2/04 at 08:42 PM |
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LET Engine in Caterham
[Edited on 8/2/04 by Ben_Copeland]
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200mph
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| posted on 8/2/04 at 09:12 PM |
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www.veryexpensivebuilders.co.uk
anyone?
thats just a suggestion by the way
[Edited on 8/2/04 by 9904169]
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ned
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| posted on 9/2/04 at 09:35 AM |
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i recon you'd need to use a t5 gearbox.
this is my plan if i ever built something with more power than a quaife pro type 9 could handle (290bhp) the c20let can go over 300 with the righht
bits.
a t5 seems to cost around £2-300 or more (might need rebuilding) then buy a short vx-ford bellhousing and you then have 20mm to make an adapter plate
to line up the input shaft. the splines/input shaft are the same size which helps (1"x23) so it is do-able.
all imho...
Ned.
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kikingriffin
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| posted on 9/2/04 at 09:07 PM |
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top stuff
you boyz seem to have all the info i need!
gona sell my 2x astra vans 16v ones then gonna try find a cat style car un do it!what will that c20let fit in to best? robin/caterham/westfield ect?
will you all give me advice on the way?this is all new to me ,done engine conversions to cars in the past but not kit car form
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Ben_Copeland
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| posted on 9/2/04 at 09:20 PM |
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If you make your chassis.. you can make any engine fit.... it's all upto you. Do you really want to pay the extorsionate prices of
robin/caterham/westfield ? This is a locost website Do it all yourself If you want to buy a chassis, look into getting one from MK/GTS, etc
Ben
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kikingriffin
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| posted on 9/2/04 at 09:27 PM |
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£££££?
im no good at building chassies wouldent know were to start? so how much would i be looking at for some one to build me a chassie?
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200mph
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| posted on 9/2/04 at 09:34 PM |
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i'll do you one for £2000
worth a try I though?
Mark
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Ben_Copeland
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| posted on 9/2/04 at 09:37 PM |
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Check those 2 out...
GTS
MK engineering
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Stu16v
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| posted on 9/2/04 at 09:39 PM |
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It wont go in a Westfield, not without frame mods or a new inlet manifold anyway. This may apply to quite a few sevenesque kits on the market. Most
will accomodate a VX 16v, but you need a lot less room for one on carbs. As you have already seen, it will (just) fit in a Caterham, with a big enough
shoe horn!
FWIW, with the hassle/cost involved, I would stick with the XE16v. Far less complicated, almost the same power as a standard LET when on carbs, no
major gearbox probs, and 'easier' to drive. Big turbo power is fun, unless you are mid corner on a wet road
Ben:
quote:
This is a locost website Do it all yourself
Are you trying to upset a good proportion of the members???
Dont just build it.....make it!
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Ben_Copeland
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| posted on 9/2/04 at 09:42 PM |
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Well i made mine.. so i'm allowed to upset that proportion
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Stu16v
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| posted on 9/2/04 at 09:44 PM |
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Me too.
Dont just build it.....make it!
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kikingriffin
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| posted on 9/2/04 at 09:52 PM |
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yeah
there sweet chers mate!
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Ben_Copeland
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| posted on 9/2/04 at 09:59 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by Stu16v
Me too.
hehe all these people that buy their chassis.... sheeeesh
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kikingriffin
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| posted on 11/2/04 at 07:57 PM |
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whats he plan then?
i want a dump valve but want the vaux 16v lump to! so its gotta be the c20let lump im afraid will it have to be a caterham seven or can i get a dax
or locost and have the chassie modded?
need as much info here lads a possible i have a man who can weld the world up if he put his mind to it but only in mild steel with a mig will this be
a problem?heeeeeeellllllllllp!
how would you go about it? want it to look nice but cheap as poss to and beat my mates scooby that his tunning up as we speak or write even, also im
thinking 4x4 aswell now too, to help that long bend in the wet,could i use the xr4i 4x4 running gear or should i use the cosworth 4x4 runng gear? what
kinda dolla am i looking at 4 the running gear? what gea box un prop ect will i have to use?also ill get thru this questionaire soon wat hubs un stuff
will i should i use?
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tobyg
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| posted on 11/2/04 at 08:17 PM |
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If i wanted a 4x4 kit car i would go for the DAX 4x4 cosworth
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tobyg
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| posted on 11/2/04 at 08:18 PM |
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thats the only one i know of with 4 wheel drive running gear!!!
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Stu16v
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| posted on 11/2/04 at 09:16 PM |
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Unless you want to extend your 'build' time considerably, dont do 4WD.
Unless you want to push the costs up, dont do 4WD.
Unless you are planning a shitload of BHP, dont do 4WD.
All IMHO of course. But it will increase the weight of the car (one of the main bonuses of a Locost or similar), the complexity, and will sap power.
As an indication, what kind of budget are you looking at?
Dont just build it.....make it!
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Stu16v
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| posted on 11/2/04 at 09:18 PM |
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P.s. there wasnt a Scoob or Evo that would stay with my car when I went to a track day at Oulton last year.
XE16v totally standard except for a pair of 45's and ARP rod bolts.....
Dont just build it.....make it!
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JoelP
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| posted on 11/2/04 at 11:16 PM |
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In my opinion, theres no need for 4wd unless you have serious cosworth power, and if you do, you may as well use a 4x4 cosworth donor! a bloody
expensive habit cutting up those...
worth it if you can be arsed though. I would recommend reading hicost's recent post about cosworth tuning and running though, might put you off
unless you are on first name terms with the bank manager...
Beware! Bourettes is binfectious.
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hadtomuchwine
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| posted on 11/2/04 at 11:51 PM |
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Building it
Just build it, dont talk about it, if it has not been built then you cannot get any advise?
Remember it is a locost, so it will not cost u anymore than £250. anyway.
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