PaulBuz
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| posted on 14/5/03 at 05:24 PM |
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How far does it stick out?
The engine that is!
How high above the top chassis rails does the engine pertrude?
 
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PaulBuz
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| posted on 14/5/03 at 05:34 PM |
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another view
 
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auzziejim
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| posted on 14/5/03 at 06:05 PM |
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i cant help in a technical matter but the lil kid in the first photo seems to be aching to get involved with the build! 
Cheers
james
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GO
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| posted on 14/5/03 at 10:07 PM |
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cant help either i'm afraid, but one thing you will need to do is swap the wheels to the other side. The uni-direction treads u've got on
those tyres should be "pointing" forward if you get what I mean. nice looking wheels tho!
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kiwirex
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| posted on 15/5/03 at 01:52 AM |
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GO
> nice looking wheels tho!
Yeah real nice.
I'd work from the other end:
The book seems to suggest your sump sticks out an inch below.
I'd set it there, then worry about the bonnet as a separate.
I guess the question I'd be asking is: do I have to shorten my sump?
- Greg H
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PaulBuz
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| posted on 15/5/03 at 01:10 PM |
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The sump has already been shortened by 1.5 inches
the engine protrudes 8.5 inches above the top rails
I just wondered what sort of height the pinto boys have in their cars
Re the wheels/tyres- Thanks ,I quite like them too!
£300 off ebay
I know the tyres are backwards- I just chucked the wheels on to move the car around
[Edited on 15/5/03 by PaulBuz]
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Jon Bradbury
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| posted on 15/5/03 at 03:11 PM |
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That is a Sierra 2.0L DOHC engine
I think it might be OK. After all a Robin Hood 2B will take it, and that's pretty similar in zize.
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david walker
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| posted on 15/5/03 at 06:09 PM |
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I think you have a problem.
You ought to buy/fit a nosecone first and fit it as high as you can. Some people have fitted them an inch higher than for what they were designed.
Then make a scuttle, or at least knock up a cardboard replica and tape it on. When you have done that offer a straight edge between the two and see if
you are OK.
As I say I think you may have a problem, but it's not one you can't get over, but don't make the engine installation permanent yet,
get some bodywork in place.
The R/Hood is bigger, taller and wider than a book Locost - which your chassis looks to be.
Dave Walker, Race Engine Services - 07957 454659 or 01636 671277
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PaulBuz
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| posted on 15/5/03 at 06:29 PM |
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Like this
 
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billy
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| posted on 15/5/03 at 07:41 PM |
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nice 1 m8............but along way left to go.but thats all the fun
luego-lo-cost finished,vauxhall 16v 2.0,twin 45s de-dion rear set up
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PaulBuz
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| posted on 15/5/03 at 07:47 PM |
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David thank you for your comments
I notice on a previous post of yours that a pinto is 17.5 inches from centre of crankshaft pulley to the top of the rocker cover.
The DOHC is slightly shorter at 17" for the same measurement.
The nose cone in the photo is a lolo +1" jobby.
I think these were made as after requests from pinto engined builders.
The most complicated part will be the fabrication of my own design inlet manifold for twin 40's.
This is complicated by the fact that on the original manifold, all the heads cooling water exits via the manifold!
Still i've worked out a way around this (NO - i'm not going to blank them off!- not on an engine renowned for overheating/warped heads)
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david walker
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| posted on 15/5/03 at 07:59 PM |
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Looks OK now Paul!
That's a tall nosecone and everything looks in much better perspective. You are right, there is little difference in the heights of the Pinto
& DOHC - However the width of the DOHC will make things tight.
Best of luck with it, the DOHC lump is much better than many on here give it credit for.
Dave Walker, Race Engine Services - 07957 454659 or 01636 671277
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stephen_gusterson
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| posted on 15/5/03 at 09:33 PM |
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I thought about the dohc - at 125hp std its not bad, but when I bought the donor 3 years back they were a little more costly then.
Didnt fitting your nose cone, and finding the engine was lower than it, kinda answer your question, or am I being a thicko?
atb
steve
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PaulBuz
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| posted on 16/5/03 at 04:49 PM |
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HI Steve
To me the nose cone looks to be high, but then i've never built one of these before & just wanted a second (& third etc.) opinion
ATB
Paul
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Viper
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| posted on 16/5/03 at 05:02 PM |
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Paul,
shouldnt the nosecones lower edge be the same height as the botom of the chassis?and further forward?
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PaulBuz
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| posted on 16/5/03 at 08:20 PM |
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The nose may well come forward a couple of inches yet.
Regarding the gap at the bottom ,I take it you have'nt got 'the book'; there is an infill plate that goes at the bottom.
Anyway the number plate will sit in front of that very nicely!
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Viper
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| posted on 16/5/03 at 08:32 PM |
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yes i have got the book and have built a couple of chassis from it, but the nose cones never sat that high, but the book build was with a crossflow, a
shorter lump, still think it looks to high, might be just the pic
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PaulBuz
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| posted on 16/5/03 at 08:47 PM |
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AFAIK, the flat section on the nose cone is made to sit on the top of the top rails,as in my pic. This nosecone is 1" taller than the normal book
one.
I can't take it down any lower for obvious reasons.
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PaulBuz
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 posted on 16/5/03 at 08:56 PM |
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YIKES!!!!
I thought I had problems till looking thru the photo archive,I found Ewan Spences engine in situ photo.
ewan are u planning to drive using a periscope!!?
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Viper
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| posted on 16/5/03 at 08:56 PM |
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see your point , have you got the book to hand?(assuming its the 1st ed) have a look at page 136 top pic ..the back of the nose cone is sat in the top
rails but the front has bees pushed lower and elsewhere it looks to me as though the lower wishbones have a cut out in the nose where yours sits
higher than the bones..what do you think..
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PaulBuz
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| posted on 16/5/03 at 09:03 PM |
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Viper, I've got the second ed. but I know what u mean.
Looks like i'm stuck with it at that height.
In my dreams I would love the car to even vaguely resemble a Dax Rush.
Look at the height of the nose cone below.
 
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Viper
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| posted on 16/5/03 at 09:22 PM |
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something else has just struck me is the nosecone is a lot higher than the cycle wings..
This is just my opinion of course, but i think with a little bit of tweeking and fiddeling you could get it low enough,to look like the dax, or the
other option is to have it real low and put a bulge in it like the avon.....
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david walker
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| posted on 17/5/03 at 11:43 AM |
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Paul,
Just another thought, and looking at the pics, I seriously think you ought to be fitting the gearbox before you go any further. The slope of the
engine looks wrong at moment.
The Dax rush, like many (or even most) Se7ens has higher sides than the book Locost. If I were to build another chassis, I think I'd put an inch
or more into the chassis sides - particularly in the engine bay.
Dave Walker, Race Engine Services - 07957 454659 or 01636 671277
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Peteff
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| posted on 17/5/03 at 12:24 PM |
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engine position
If the engine is a similar height to the pinto 2ltr and you can get it well back in the chassis you might not need to modify much to get it under the
bonnet if your nosecone is higher than a standard one. I cut my bonnet and put a lump on top to cover the cam case and a hole for the carb to stick
out and it's only about 2.5 inches high. A bit bodgy but when everything else is done you don't want to alter too much.
yours, Pete.
 
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yours, Pete
I went into the RSPCA office the other day. It was so small you could hardly swing a cat in there.
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