jingle
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| posted on 3/5/04 at 09:49 PM |
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German engines without workshop manuals....even more laughs. 
hint hint mate.
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Metal Hippy
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| posted on 3/5/04 at 10:27 PM |
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You'll find I have the Haynes manual (yeah, I know that's a joke in itself) but I also have on the way the TIS on cd...
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2474947535&category=10374&sspagename=STRK%3AMEBWN%3AIT&rd=1
Bit by bit I'm putting together every bit of info I need and more.
Anybody needs to know about the X5 gimme a shout once I have it.. 
Cock off or cock on. You choose.
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britishtrident
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| posted on 4/5/04 at 08:06 AM |
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A CVH Sierra is likely to have an MT75 gearbox, the Type 9 from an earrlier Sierra is likely to be a better choice.
My build started before Sierra single donor became possible so my spec is a collection of Escort I Escort 2 Escor3/Orion, Sierra and Cortina.
My engine choice was a 1600 cvh from an 89 Orion , which is basically early carb Xr3 spec but with unleaded valve seats. mated to a Sierra type 9
gearbox via a Sierra CVH 1800 flywheel, starter is from a Sierra.
For CVH info see http://www.pumaracing.co.uk/cvh.htm
http://www.sylva.co.uk/cvh.html
Loads of good info here too -- Zetec but has good drawings of engine mounts for Ford FWD unit in a RWD car
http://cyclops.dmu.ac.uk/tiger/paul/zetec.html
[Edited on 4/5/04 by britishtrident]
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dai1983
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| posted on 4/5/04 at 09:12 AM |
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britishtrident- Im seriously thinking of doing the same as you. I want to get a sierra donor with type 9 and a 1.6cvh engine from another car. Or
perhaps a 1.6cvh sierra and buy the box from a breakers. It depends on the sierra's i can find.
Are the 1.6 cvh found in sierra's the same spec as those in the escort?
Thanks for your help!
David
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britishtrident
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| posted on 4/5/04 at 10:00 AM |
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I've only ever actually seen the 1.8 CVH in Sierra, I know the 1.6 exists but they were only at the very end of Sierra production and I think?
the difference in price between the 1.6 and 1.8 was minimal.
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DaveFJ
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| posted on 4/5/04 at 10:47 AM |
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got to have my say.......
Pinto -
Overweight ? - is a couple of kilos really that much in the long run ?
Size ? - not a real problem for most chassis
Cost ? - Usually free or damn near it
Power ? - standard 2linj gives 130hp easily, a couple of hundred gets you above 150hp....
Strength ? the pinto is a solid peice of machinery - simple yes but strong, it can take a lot of abuse!
Also the Pinto forms the basis of the Veritable cosworth engine.... and therefore is a (realtively) easy swap ltaer on! (thats what I intend!)
Given all that I would defend the Pinto as an excellent choice for a 'lowcost locost'
To respond to someone else's comment - is my Avon really not a locost just because I bought the chassis? (NOT a full kit)
Dave
"In Support of Help the Heroes" - Always
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Mark Allanson
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| posted on 4/5/04 at 04:22 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by britishtrident
I've only ever actually seen the 1.8 CVH in Sierra, I know the 1.6 exists but they were only at the very end of Sierra production and I think?
the difference in price between the 1.6 and 1.8 was minimal.
I've been checking this out for someone else, the 1.6 CVH Sierra has the same part number head gasket set as an XR3i - if it helps
PS All the 1.6's were injection with a cat, based on the XR3i with a slightly lower compression ratio (combustion chambers perhaps?)
[Edited on 4/5/04 by Mark Allanson]
If you can keep you head, whilst all others around you are losing theirs, you are not fully aware of the situation
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NS Dev
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| posted on 4/5/04 at 05:07 PM |
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BritishTrident is right, the 1600 CVH is very rare, I never really understood the model range at the end of the sierra lifespan. My brother had a 1600
Azura sierra and these had the 1600 pinto in, even his at K reg! (We soon took it out and put a nice rally spec 2.0 in though!! with poly bushes and
decent springs and shocks and with the 1600's diff ratio made quite a rapid car!! (in sierra terms))
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david walker
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| posted on 6/5/04 at 09:14 PM |
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1600 CVH Sierra engine is much the same as the FWD version but does differ in the inlet manifold area. The head has an extra water outlet port and
inlet gasket is different. Payen etc list the same headset but they have got it wrong.
It's only a detail but furthers the question as to why Ford bothered!
Dave Walker, Race Engine Services - 07957 454659 or 01636 671277
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muzz
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| posted on 7/5/04 at 08:59 PM |
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Pinto is king, what else can you get for the money with that sort of power thats dead reliable and can be thrown away if it blows up. i'm a
mechanic by trade and wouldnt have a zetec given (unless i had a fetish for coolant leaks and running problems), plus if youre goona spend hundreds on
an engine for whats basically a part time toy then why not just buy an elise and have done with it. while im on one cvh rs turbo engine fine anything
else pants ... arse !
[Edited on 7/5/04 by muzz]
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JoelP
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| posted on 7/5/04 at 09:02 PM |
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i'll second that, as i said to a friend just yesterday, its free, simple and reliable. if 120bhp is all you want there is no better engine,
unless weight is a problem.
Beware! Bourettes is binfectious.
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muzz
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| posted on 7/5/04 at 09:05 PM |
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thanxs thought i was right !
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britishtrident
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| posted on 7/5/04 at 09:07 PM |
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Pinto is king ? next you will be suggesting fitting a 2.5 sidevalve V8 out of a Ford Pilot.
Come to think of it that is a better choice han the Pinto.
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Mark Allanson
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| posted on 7/5/04 at 09:18 PM |
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Your right, but they are simple, cheap, almost guaranteed to pass the SVA, need very little adaption to the chassis and ensure a speedier build.
What you do after the SVA is another matter, I'm already looking at how to fit an Alfa 2.0TSpark to a type9 - now that IS an engine
If you can keep you head, whilst all others around you are losing theirs, you are not fully aware of the situation
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muzz
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| posted on 7/5/04 at 09:20 PM |
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agree ther thats what is in the wfes car
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