flak monkey
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I have a few problems with certain christian denominations. But there are good and bad in each (though some are more strict than others).
I am definately not be your stereotypical Christian by any means (you wouldnt think it to look at me). And i certainly dont go around pushing my ideas
or beliefs on anyone (those are the types i have the most issues with, and they tend to be the fundamentalist type as well).
I am methodist, probably the least pushy of the Christian denominations.
I am quite willing to accept peoples criticism of religion. And think no worse of those who dont believe or have faith. I have had patches of
questioning my faith, but its always been there in the back of my mind.
Wars have been fought throughout time in the name of religion, but never in the true cause. Its just another excuse, and its a terrible thing, and
makes people very wary.
People think religion makes your life boring. It most certainly does not. It doesnt change much in your life at all to be fair, it can if you want it
to, but it doesnt have to. People also have these stereotypical views of religious types as bible bashers and dowdy old women, this is not the case at
all. At our church at home I helped get a christian rock (proper rock with big guitar solos etc) band in to play, and we often had lively services
which were by no means boring!
David
Sera
http://www.motosera.com
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derf
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| posted on 7/1/06 at 04:22 AM |
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quote:
and B. Have the power to excommunicate people from God
Ive been trying to get excommunicated for 2 years now, ive sent blasphomouse letters to the vatican addressed to the "dude with the funny hat
that always wear pj's and speaks funny". ive never had a response.
I'm a barely there Jew. I do some (read none unless my parents make me) of the religous stuff, but i have in general been put off by religion.
The catholic church is way too controlling. My wife can be nuts if I bring up religion, she goes to church and is scared of god and all. Ive even seen
her pray for me. Ive never asked for that nor do I want it it. if god doesnt see that i'm a generally good person and should be accepted as I am
then screw him. He asks me to accept him for the sadistic murderer he claims to be, and i think it should go both ways.
And who is the vatican to say that they are the only way to god, sounds kinda kooky to me, if they are so almighty then give the money that they have
sitting in the bank and feed the poor, use some money for some good now, look into stem cells to see if they can work. I dont think stem cells are the
cure all for everything, but if scientists keep looking at the next big cure then one will be the next big cure.
Anyway i'm gonna take a walk over to my bathroom and take a poo and comtemplate the meaning of life some more, maybee something wothwile will
come out.
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smart51
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| posted on 7/1/06 at 12:31 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by derf
if god doesnt see that i'm a generally good person and should be accepted as I am then screw him.
Words you might live to regret?
Oh God, you do exist! Err, Um, I guess I did once say that.
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steve_gus
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| posted on 7/1/06 at 09:34 PM |
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and god, being a loving god, would not let that one thing condemn you.
But isnt there something in the bible that infers that you can be a great person all of your life, yet still do one little thing and be sent to
hell.
Perfection is difficult to achieve over a lifetime.
atb
steve
http://www.locostbuilder.co.uk
Just knock off the 's'!
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steve_gus
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| posted on 7/1/06 at 09:37 PM |
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I think its true that the catholic church has so much money that it could indeed make a big difference to the world if it needed to.
they could sell the Vatican, which looks prime land, and move to rural India. That would raise a fair bit and God sees all, even in India. Jesus had
nothing, nuns and monks have nothing, but the catholic church is a major land and property owner.
atb
steve
http://www.locostbuilder.co.uk
Just knock off the 's'!
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Russ-Turner
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| posted on 9/1/06 at 10:56 PM |
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"I love my family and I go to work, so why should I spend two hours of my Sunday hearing about how I'm going to hell?!" -Homer
Simpson-
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Triton
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| posted on 9/1/06 at 11:01 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by Russ-Turner
"I love my family and I go to work, so why should I spend two hours of my Sunday hearing about how I'm going to hell?!" -Homer
Simpson-
I second that
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Benzine
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| posted on 9/1/06 at 11:38 PM |
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Asked this guy, I said, 'Can I ask you a question? It's a one-word question.'
"Go ahead."
"Dinosaur". Come on man, Dinosaur fossils. What's the deal?"
"Dinosaur fossils? God put those there to test our faith."
"I think God put you here to test my faith, dude. You believe that?"
"Uh huh."
Does that trouble anyone here? The idea that God might be fuckin' with our heads? Anyone have trouble sleeping restfully with that thought in
their heads? God's running around, burying fossils: "Huh huh ho. We will see who believes in me now, ha ha!. I'm a prankster god. I
am killing me. Ho ho ho ho."
You know, you die, you go to St. Peter,
"Did you you believe in dinosaurs?"
"Well, you know, there were fossils everywhere." (trapdoor opens) Aaaaarhhh!!
"What are you, an idiot? God was FUCKING with you! Giant flying lizards? You moron! That's one of God's easiest jokes!"
"It seemed so plausible! Aieeeeeeeee!"
Bound for the lake of fire. . . . While I appreciate your quaint traditions, superstitions, and, you know, I on the other hand am an evolved being who
deals solely with the source of light which exists in all of us, in our own minds, no middle man required.
"Such a weird belief. Lots of Christians wear crosses around their necks. You think when Jesus comes back he's gonna want to see a fucking
cross, man? Might be why he hasn't shown up yet."
"I just think it's interesting to see how people act on their beliefs, you know what I mean? 'Cause your beliefs, they're just
that, they're nothin', there's how you were taught, and raised. That doesn't make 'em real. That's why I always
recommend a psychedelic experience, 'cause it does make you realize that everything you learned is in fact just learned, and not necessarily
true."
"According to Christianity, eternal suffering awaits anyone who questions God's infinite love. That's the message we're
brought up with, believe or die. "Thank you, forgiving Lord, for all those options."
"I love the Pope, I love seeing him in his Pope-Mobile, his three feet of bullet proof plexi-glass. That's faith in action folks! You know
he's got God on his side."
"You ever noticed how people who believe in Creationism look really unevolved?"
--Bill Hicks
I, personally, keep an open mind to anything and question everything. I can niether prove nor disprove god(s).
[Edited on 9/1/06 by Benzine]
The mental gymnastics a landlord will employ to justify immoral actions is clinically fascinating. Just because something is legal doesn't make
it moral.
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Peteff
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| posted on 10/1/06 at 12:19 AM |
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Hello God, this is the meek.
We're here to inherit the Earth. Read on .
yours, Pete
I went into the RSPCA office the other day. It was so small you could hardly swing a cat in there.
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MikeP
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| posted on 10/1/06 at 03:37 AM |
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God created fossils to test our faith? That's just crazy, he never did. Nope, Lucifer did it. And a damn good job too, very detailed (pun
intended).
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Mark18
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| posted on 10/1/06 at 01:20 PM |
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The bible talks about dinosaurs in Job. chapter 40 or something.
Mark
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Benzine
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| posted on 10/1/06 at 01:31 PM |
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Job uses the word Behemoth, the biggest land animal (not knowing about dinosaurs) would surely seem huge. How did they survive at the same time as man
when the oxygen content of the atmosphere was completely different? The reason dinosaurs were able to be so big was the high oxygen content in the
atmosphere surely.
The mental gymnastics a landlord will employ to justify immoral actions is clinically fascinating. Just because something is legal doesn't make
it moral.
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NS Dev
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| posted on 10/1/06 at 01:34 PM |
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As a simple atheist I don't struggle at all with any of these ideas of creationism vs anything else.
All of this is simply us little bacteria-like humans scuttling about on the petri-dish that is the earth trying to explain our existence, much to the
amusement of some far away aliens watching us in their scientific experiments.
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steve_gus
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| posted on 10/1/06 at 07:53 PM |
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nope. its the mice that are watching us
atb
steve
http://www.locostbuilder.co.uk
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MikeP
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| posted on 10/1/06 at 10:43 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by NS Dev
All of this is simply us little bacteria-like humans scuttling about on the petri-dish that is the earth trying to explain our existence, much to the
amusement of some far away aliens watching us in their scientific experiments.
That's a bit arrogant isn't it? We're a light star-dusting on a backwoods planet in a uninteresting galaxy - I think we'd be
pretty low down on any alien's priority list.
Another one of Lucifer's tricks I suppose - making us appear to be such an insignificant part of an enormous universe - it could be rather faith
shattering... 
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quattromike
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| posted on 10/1/06 at 10:49 PM |
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Originally posted by steve_gus
nope. its the mice that are watching us
atb
steve
Well then whos is watching the mice?
Mike
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NS Dev
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| posted on 11/1/06 at 12:26 AM |
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the soup tins always watch the mice... silly!
The tinned carrots need watching though!
Retro RWD is the way forward...........automotive fabrication, car restoration, sheetmetal work, engine conversion
retro car restoration and tuning
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Mark18
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| posted on 16/1/06 at 12:05 AM |
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I remember Gabriel byrne putting it well in a film:
God is the great underachiever of all time - whenever something happens it is attributed to Him, whenever nothing does He moves in mysterious ways.
Same blaming the devil for being the root of our shortcomings.
The basis of christianity is jesus died for our sins so we can go to heaven. People fail to look at the big picture; if god created our world, heaven
and everything in both, ie. lucifer, then why would he have to die.
It's like building a locost, and a garage to put it in, and then having to die because one of the powertools was upset.
All IMO.
Mark
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Mark Allanson
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| posted on 16/1/06 at 12:10 AM |
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If God exists I think it is a species, not an individual, and we have our very own 12 year old spotty little sod who loves nothing better than to burn
ants with a magnifying glass on every sunny day.
Now that would explain a great many things
If you can keep you head, whilst all others around you are losing theirs, you are not fully aware of the situation
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carcentric
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| posted on 16/1/06 at 10:36 PM |
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How many here are Quakers? Or know a Quaker?
M D "Doc" Nugent
http://www.carcentric.com
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