G.Man
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| posted on 24/10/06 at 06:14 AM |
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TKS
The UK sva is EU recognised..
Thats why I was able to bring my car to cyprus..
Only problem was DVLA fecked up the paperwork
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tks
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| posted on 24/10/06 at 06:24 AM |
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Are ya all sure??
Cyprus is ownen by england not??
Sow perhaps thats different.
anyway i hope its true because it wil mean the spanish goverment cant reject my import but i doupt it. Everyone says thats difficult!
Ask Alezz...Alez are ya there??
Tks
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G.Man
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| posted on 24/10/06 at 06:44 AM |
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quote:
Originally posted by tks
Cyprus is ownen by england not??
Tks
LOLOLOL
Don't come to Cyprus and say that..
Cyprus has been an independant state since 1960 mate...
The EU freedom of movement rules mean that any vehicle legal in one EU member state is also legal in any other member state...
Its nothing to do with whether they are a british colony or otherwise..
Now, that doesnt mean that if you SVA and register the car in one member state some sort of tax wont be levied when you "bring it home" as
the vehicle must have been owned for 6 months in your previous member state to qualify as tax free..
Its identical to normal car importation rules..
Trust me TKS this is an area I am expert on.. having been thru all the regs with a fine tooth comb over the last 10 months..
[Edited on 24/10/06 by G.Man]
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tks
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| posted on 24/10/06 at 06:47 AM |
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mhhh
oepsz sorry..
yesterday i talked to BOB and he said something about that.. he came with the idea for me to bring hte car to gibraltar??
but there isnīt a sva station there (obviously) i interpretended his words wrong..
sorry
Tks
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NS Dev
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| posted on 24/10/06 at 07:54 AM |
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quote:
Originally posted by JoaoCaldeira
You are getting just half of the fun that building and legalizing was.
. bought kit on the phone (never saw one in flesh, never drove one)
. March, 17, flew to UK with (pregnant) wife, bought a Mondeo near Manchester, bought a trailer near Stoke on Trent, drove to MNR
. met Marc and Chris
. collect kit
. drove back to Portugal
. build car (90% as Marc said)
. July, 25th, loaded the trailer and returned to UK with Joao Matoso.
. trailer went on eBay, Mondeo on Marc's hands, and VortX on finishing touches
. Me and Matoso... we got back on a motorcycle that I bought near Darley 
. Missed the ferry to Santander, so I had to go to North France... and all the way down to Portugal
. MNR finished the car and SVAed it
. October, 14, Joao Matoso flew to Leeds, went to MNR, after never driving such a beast took off to Portsmouth, ferry to Bilbao (where he was treated
as Schumacher ), and then to Lisbon (under HEAVY HEAVY rain and T-Storms).
Madness??? No way... pure absence of brain
The point is.. there is no point, just passion!
Defenetly it wouldn't be possible if there were no Marc or Chris, as they have been fabolous helping in everything.
THANKS MARC.
THANKS CHRIS.
Cheers to MNR.
Joao
PS: forgot to mention... not revealing his age, Matoso is old school... actually he is Before-School ... no... 57, actually
You are a complete nutcase!!!! 
I have done some daft things in my life but that tops the lot!!!
Well done, glad you have it all sorted, that is the sort of spirit that is needed, think its called determination!!!!!!!
nice one!!!
Retro RWD is the way forward...........automotive fabrication, car restoration, sheetmetal work, engine conversion
retro car restoration and tuning
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chockymonster
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| posted on 24/10/06 at 09:54 AM |
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Joao,
In the politest possible English:
You sir are a nutter!
Paul
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jcduroc
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| posted on 26/10/06 at 11:27 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by chockymonster
Joao,
In the politest possible English:
You sir are a nutter!
Paul
Thanks Paul, I take that as a compliment.
João Matoso
JCM
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Jonte
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| posted on 27/10/06 at 09:09 AM |
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quote:
Originally posted by G.Man
The UK sva is EU recognised..
That doesnīt apply in sweden.
We canīt buy a amatuer built car in any other country and bring it here legally. Thereīs one exception, and that is if you live in for example U.K for
a year and own that car for at least 12 months. After that you can drive it in sweden.
*Amateur built car is every car that isnīt built by a (as our goverment would say) real car manufactory. So a turn-key car from Ultima, Caterham or RH
is classified as a amatuer built car
Click it
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Gergely
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| posted on 27/10/06 at 09:44 AM |
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Same thing I am planning to do. Buy kit in UK, get transport company to bring it to Hungary, build it, trailer it back to UK, SVA it and have it fully
registered (not sure on whose name though as I imagine that you need utility bills in the UK and the rest to be able to insure the car...), once it is
fully road legal, import it - trailer or drive - back to Hungary, where it would have to go through the Hungarian version of the MOT and get a licence
plate...
That's theory, we'll see how it works in practice. As far as I know it has not been done by anyone yet in Hungary... I know of someone
with a half built Fury who is not sure if he'll ever be able to drive it on the road...
I am confident that this theory works though...
As for Sweden I thought I heard that you have a sort of SVA in Sweden am I wrong?
Joaos, great story! Very similar to what I am planning! Great stuff!
Gergely
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TimC
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| posted on 27/10/06 at 10:47 AM |
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quote:
Originally posted by Jonte
That doesnīt apply in sweden.
We canīt buy a amatuer built car in any other country and bring it here legally. Thereīs one exception, and that is if you live in for example U.K for
a year and own that car for at least 12 months. After that you can drive it in sweden.
*Amateur built car is every car that isnīt built by a (as our goverment would say) real car manufactory. So a turn-key car from Ultima, Caterham or RH
is classified as a amatuer built car
That must be the price you pay for having the most beautiful women in the world...
[Edited on 27/10/06 by TimC]
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G.Man
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| posted on 27/10/06 at 11:10 AM |
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quote:
Originally posted by Jonte
quote:
Originally posted by G.Man
The UK sva is EU recognised..
That doesnīt apply in sweden.
We canīt buy a amatuer built car in any other country and bring it here legally. Thereīs one exception, and that is if you live in for example U.K for
a year and own that car for at least 12 months. After that you can drive it in sweden.
*Amateur built car is every car that isnīt built by a (as our goverment would say) real car manufactory. So a turn-key car from Ultima, Caterham or RH
is classified as a amatuer built car
Then Sweden is in breach of its EU requirements, and that will change..
They are obliged to accept a vehicle imported from any other member state...
PROVIDED it passes their MOT test..
However who wants to move to a country with colder weather than UK with a locost anyway..
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tks
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| posted on 27/10/06 at 11:31 AM |
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No!
That words do axactly the rumours here in spain!
But there are more ways!! to rome also in sweden!
If you can get your car homologated to EU level. it will enter every country without a spark of problems!!!
Here in spain there exist a homologation company wich do just that. Homologate to EU level. problem is that it isnīt easy to cope with that!
If you reed this artikel, you will see that it states that it should be possible but like always some exeptions.
this is the link. (in the upper bar you can switch language)
LINK TO EU RULEZ SVA EU COUNTRY (ESPANOL)
LINK IN ENGLISH
LINK IN HUNGARIUNurl]
Regards,
Tks
[url=http://eur-lex.europa.eu/Result.do?chlang=nl&titre=titre&arg1=&Submit=Zoeken&RechType=RECH_mot&idRoot=1&arg0=31996Y0513(0
1)&arg2=&refinecode=LEG*T1=V100;T2=V1;T3=V1]MAIN LINK
[Edited on 27/10/06 by tks]
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marc laptop
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| posted on 27/10/06 at 11:53 AM |
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hi walter still havent recieved an email to mnrsportscars@btinternet.com from you what would the sender be displayed as ???????
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Gergely
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| posted on 27/10/06 at 12:08 PM |
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Tks,
I can't seem to change the language in the link you sent... is it just me???
I am interested in what it says though...
Gergely
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tks
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| posted on 27/10/06 at 12:44 PM |
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marc
i have sended a new one.
the other wasn't sended sow nothing wrong with the damn computers
Cheers,
Walter
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tks
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| posted on 27/10/06 at 12:50 PM |
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I have added more languages..
i quote from the document
quote:
It follows that Member States may not object to the type-approval and registration of a vehicle previously type-approved and registered in another
Member State, for reasons relating to the technical characteristics of that vehicle, unless the reasons specified in Article 36 or imperative
considerations are involved, in which case they must state them in detail and substantiate them. The fact that a vehicle type-approved and registered
in another Member State does not correspond to a type approved in the Member State of destination or that its technical characteristics differ from
those laid down in the law of that State does not of itself constitute adequate grounds for refusing the type-approval and registration of the vehicle
concerned.
Regards,
Tks
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G.Man
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| posted on 27/10/06 at 01:37 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by tks
That words do axactly the rumours here in spain!
But there are more ways!! to rome also in sweden!
If you can get your car homologated to EU level. it will enter every country without a spark of problems!!!
Here in spain there exist a homologation company wich do just that. Homologate to EU level. problem is that it isnīt easy to cope with that!
If you reed this artikel, you will see that it states that it should be possible but like always some exeptions.
this is the link. (in the upper bar you can switch language)
LINK TO EU RULEZ SVA EU COUNTRY (ESPANOL)
LINK IN ENGLISH
LINK IN HUNGARIUNurl]
Regards,
Tks
[url=http://eur-lex.europa.eu/Result.do?chlang=nl&titre=titre&arg1=&Submit=Zoeken&RechType=RECH_mot&idRoot=1&arg0=31996Y0513(0
1)&arg2=&refinecode=LEG*T1=V100;T2=V1;T3=V1]MAIN LINK
[Edited on 27/10/06 by tks]
TKS
I dont understand what you are saying...
The UK SVA test is an EU type Approval... Therefore to enter another EU member state it must merely pass their equivalent of an MOT/Safety test....
No member state can test a vehicle to a standard below that required for EU type approval, including emmissions...
quote:
Member States may not make the registration of a vehicle from another Member State, where it has been previously type-approved and registered,
conditional upon its conformity with an approved type or upon its strict compliance with requirements in force on their territory. It should be borne
in mind that this point only arises in the case of national type-approval since, where EC type-approval has been obtained, by definition it is valid
for that model in all Member States.
Even if the SVA test is regarded as a national type approval, they must allow it entry and registration in another member state, it does not have to
comply with local technical regulations... Except on safety grpunds which they must validate under article 36 and list before refusal..
This would not mean missing airbags etc it would mean inadequate brakes, safety devices etc etc.. ie you would have to think of it as less safe than a
motorcycle before they could fail it...
[Edited on 27/10/06 by G.Man]
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tks
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| posted on 27/10/06 at 01:49 PM |
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Uhhh
Do you have prove wich says that the SVA is an EU homologation??
For example is there a homologation number on your car document??
Tks
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G.Man
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| posted on 27/10/06 at 02:25 PM |
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The SVA certificate number is printed on the V5 in the section, type approval number...
[Edited on 27/10/06 by G.Man]
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tks
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| posted on 27/10/06 at 02:28 PM |
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can you give me a part of that number??
does it start with a e?
Regards,
Tks
p.d. iīm in no offence to you its just that i try to prepare my paperwork.
With proof material.
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G.Man
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| posted on 27/10/06 at 02:29 PM |
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No its starts with an AA, only EU type approval numbers start with a E, as they represent the Generic Type Approval not single vehicle approval
http://www.dft.gov.uk/stellent/groups/dft_roads/documents/page/dft_roads_506874-01.hcsp
Full details of the scope and purpose of UK SVA is here..
[Edited on 27/10/06 by G.Man]
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tks
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| posted on 27/10/06 at 02:41 PM |
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Ok
Sow this is the proof that the SVA isnīt a EU homologation!!
Else it would start with a e number not??
you say that AA means EU, single aproval?
Tks
p.d. i hop you are right but wy spain etc. can reject those cars??
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tks
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| posted on 27/10/06 at 02:45 PM |
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Who is right??
Sow who is right?
quote:
SVA checks that vehicles constructed for non-European Economic Area markets comply with British law.
Tks
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Jonte
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| posted on 27/10/06 at 03:23 PM |
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For first maybe this thread should be split in to 2 different, we are going OT here
My technical english isnīt so good and definatly not my bureaucratic english.
But as I understand these "kit-cars" are not crash tested, therefor not approved by swedish SVA as a "complete" car.
Then you donīt have the same builder for all of them. For example Caterham doesnīt build every Caterham thatīs on the road. But as for Ford, Lotus,
Bentley and on, they are built by a company and then approved as a whole-built car (donīt know the correct word for that).
But for me this aint really a problem. Itīs rather easy to build a kit-car and get it approved here in sweden. The rules are mostly the same for the
british SVA as for the swedish SVA.
But without those silly radius and rubbercovers on every nut and bolt
Click it
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chockymonster
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| posted on 27/10/06 at 03:26 PM |
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TKS,
In the UK the SVA test is used to make sure a car is fit for the UK roads. It stands for Single Vehicle Approval, it is used for one make cars (like
ours) cars imported from abroad etc.
A lot of people have done the registration in the uk and then imported it to their own country, so stop panicking!
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