jamie1107
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| posted on 17/11/08 at 03:06 PM |
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am i going down the right route
hi guys
i just read one of the new posts about comparisons between the locost and haynes roadser
i built a locost about 10 years ago now and then sold it and got into bikes unfortunatly my bike decided to bite me so iv decided 4 wheels might be
safer from now on
so i thought id build another locost so i set about getting all the bits together but
im now thinking i might be better off with a haynes due to this extra 2 inches width people are talking about
is the added width in the footwell area if so thats great cause my hip kind of goes in the wrong direction so i need all the space i can get really
also with the roadster i heard you have to chop the driveshafts to shorten them is this true as that puts me off a little
i thought its best to ask before i get the chop saw out to the box section ive got in
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Mr Whippy
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| posted on 17/11/08 at 03:20 PM |
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No chopping drive shafts at all, simply change the wheel offsets or at worse the dimensions of the wish bones. I was at 2m wide on sierra components
and wide wheels. If you are wanting a wide car, why do you want to narrow the axle?
Fame is when your old car is plastered all over the internet
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mikeb
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| posted on 17/11/08 at 03:26 PM |
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The original book shows chopped driveshaft however 98% of current builders are using the revised wishbones which doesn't require driveshaft
chop. 3GE sell them to these dimensions.
Mike
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jamie1107
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| posted on 17/11/08 at 04:56 PM |
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at least the drive shafts arnt a problem thats good the reason i was building the narrow one is purely because i didnt realise the roadster was wider
i know about the +4 mc sorley but it looks like ur stuck when it comes to donors and bodywork for that one and theres not that much build info in the
uk
im guessing the easiest way would be to sell the cortina hubs escort axle and wishbones i have and go sierra then
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Chippy
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| posted on 17/11/08 at 05:01 PM |
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Depending on which book you get for building the Haynes Roadster, if 1st edition then just add 10 mm to the rear wishbone lengths, but 2nd edition
"may" have been corrected. HTH Ray
To make a car go faster, just add lightness. Colin Chapman - OR - fit a bigger engine. Chippy
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3GEComponents
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| posted on 17/11/08 at 05:55 PM |
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Yes, the 2nd edition is 99.9% correct, eh Chris  , the driveshafts don't need to be altered.
Regards
John
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chrisg
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| posted on 17/11/08 at 09:12 PM |
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Yes, if you buy the book and it says "reprinted 2007 or 2008" All the errors have been corrected and the wishbone drawings have been
altered to suit standard length Sierra driveshaft. If you have a first edition book there's a pdf on the Haynes forum (see link below) which
details the amendments.
but
I've missed one dimension.
On page 65
Bugger
For "465" read "475", if this troubles you, please let me know and I'll write you a personal letter of appology*
Cheers
Chris
* or tell you to p*ss off, depending on the prevailing mood 
Note to all: I really don't know when to leave well alone. I tried to get clever with the mods, then when they gave me a lifeline to see the
error of my ways, I tried to incite more trouble via u2u. So now I'm banned, never to return again. They should have done it years ago!
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Mark Allanson
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| posted on 17/11/08 at 09:57 PM |
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Shame you could'nt have got down to exeter at the weekend, I saw the roadster chassis in the flesh, very tidy piece of kit, you could do a lot
worse
If you can keep you head, whilst all others around you are losing theirs, you are not fully aware of the situation
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Syd Bridge
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| posted on 18/11/08 at 09:44 AM |
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Where's me soapbox.....
It could do with a few extra diagonals in vital places, and then it would be a useable, strong, and safe chassis.
Cheers,
Syd.
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chrisg
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| posted on 18/11/08 at 10:39 AM |
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Email me your suggestions Syd and I add them to the chassis section on the Haynes forum.
Cheers
Chris
Note to all: I really don't know when to leave well alone. I tried to get clever with the mods, then when they gave me a lifeline to see the
error of my ways, I tried to incite more trouble via u2u. So now I'm banned, never to return again. They should have done it years ago!
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Daddylonglegs
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| posted on 18/11/08 at 11:00 AM |
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if it's only size you're interested in (ooeeer missus!) then have you thought about the McSorley +4 or +442?
I'm 6' 4" and that's what I went for. I guess it really depends on whether you can source the necessary bits for the RC-type
build.
Just my input FWIW. 
JB
It looks like the Midget is winning at the moment......
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jamie1107
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| posted on 18/11/08 at 01:27 PM |
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now im completely undecided i guess the ultimate would be the +4 to acomodate my mad leg lol but im really sceptical about this as theres not alot of
build info and finding a donor could be really tricky
basically i have cortina hubs with brakes an escort axle and all the wishbones so if i can use some of that in either a +4 or a roadster then thats
great i have already come to terms with the fact most of the bits ive bought will now be obsolete so im just wondering do i sell the lot and go
sierra or mix and match what do you guys think
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mr henderson
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| posted on 18/11/08 at 02:07 PM |
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I'm not sure if you would be able to build a plus 4 with the escort axle, it's a question of what will fit between the wheels.
If it was me I would find a Sierra donor and build a Haynes roadster, without modification. You'll be able to sell the other bits, especially
the cortina hubs
John
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Daddylonglegs
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| posted on 18/11/08 at 02:58 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by mr henderson
I'm not sure if you would be able to build a plus 4 with the escort axle, it's a question of what will fit between the wheels.
If it was me I would find a Sierra donor and build a Haynes roadster, without modification. You'll be able to sell the other bits, especially
the cortina hubs
John
Good point!
I have a capri axle which is slightly longer than the escort axle so maybe what you have won't be good enough for the +4 type chassis.
S'pose you could use spacers but not sure how thick they would have to be?
I am using 10mm ones for mine.
HTH
JB
It looks like the Midget is winning at the moment......
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907
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| posted on 18/11/08 at 07:49 PM |
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Hi.
I came to the conclusion that the +4 would be the best rout for me.
The extra width can be added where ever to suit your needs
I have a wide engine that lays over at 45deg, and a wide g/box. I wanted to mount it as far back as I could for better weight distribution.
The Sierra diff and drive shafts fit nicely and 'Tina uprights with an Escort rack are better with a +4 (with 2" track rod extensions)
I always intended using an ally back panel and making the scuttle, bonnet, etc so this wasn't a problem.
IMHO, it's nice to make something a little bit different, and for me it's what a Locost is all about.
Good luck with whatever you decide.
Paul G
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