jamrogers
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| posted on 9/4/09 at 09:34 PM |
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NEW POLL Bike engine or car engine
The second hand silvertop that i picked up off ebay is a bit smokey so i'm looking at other engines. Possibly Blacktop Duratec or Bike engine.
Thoughts please....
[Edited on 22/6/09 by jamrogers]
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Jasongray5
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| posted on 9/4/09 at 09:35 PM |
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BEC, its the only thing acceptable in a 7 type car...
How hard can it be?
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clairetoo
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| posted on 9/4/09 at 09:40 PM |
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V6 
Not many of those in bikes 
Its cuz I is blond , innit
Claire xx
Will weld for food......
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omega0684
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| posted on 9/4/09 at 09:48 PM |
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oh no not this again
CEC CEC CEC CEC CEC CEC CEC CEC CEC CEC CEC CEC CEC CEC CEC CEC CEC CEC CEC CEC
PINTO PINTO PINTO PINTO PINTO PINTO PINTO PINTO PINTO PINTO PINTO PINTO PINTO
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stevec
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| posted on 9/4/09 at 09:50 PM |
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Yawn!
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chris_smith
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| posted on 9/4/09 at 09:55 PM |
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oh dear
 
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mookaloid
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| posted on 9/4/09 at 09:55 PM |
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zzzzzzzzzzz
"That thing you're thinking - it wont be that."
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coozer
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| posted on 9/4/09 at 10:00 PM |
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Don't see the point of the vote, its fairly individual.
Having owned a ZX9R Striker and now driving a ST170 MNR theres years of difference....
In that I'm a dodery old codger day to day in me Rover then cannot wait to get out in my CEC, its civilised in the 30's then the VVT kicks
in above 4K and is off like a scalded cat and it does 40mpg...
Mine is 99% road use so the car engine make sense and was MUCH cheaper than installing a bike engine.
IF I was building a track day car, a bike engine would have been first choice....
Steve
1972 V8 Jago
1980 Z750
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coozer
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| posted on 9/4/09 at 10:01 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by Jasongray5
BEC, its the only thing acceptable in a 7 type car...
Your so wrong there mate...
1972 V8 Jago
1980 Z750
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Chippy
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| posted on 9/4/09 at 10:21 PM |
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Another vote for a V6, but a Cosworth one, Cheers Ray
To make a car go faster, just add lightness. Colin Chapman - OR - fit a bigger engine. Chippy
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roadrunner
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| posted on 9/4/09 at 10:48 PM |
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You can go with a boat anchor if you like that sort of thing , but you will no which way my vote will go, BEC BEC BEC BEC BEC. 
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mediabloke
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| posted on 9/4/09 at 10:50 PM |
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[Edited on 9/4/09 by mediabloke]
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A1
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| posted on 10/4/09 at 01:08 AM |
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BEC!! only way to go! sooo much faster,lighter easier to put in, sounds gorgeous, 6 gears of sequential speed, lovely to work on...the list goes
on...
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t16turbotone
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| posted on 10/4/09 at 04:58 AM |
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mmhh...this is an easy one....you see bike engines go into bikes because this is where they belong.......whatever next? how about CESS, car engined
space shuttle. However i do have a interesting project on the go ive extracted the engine from my scalextric car and have fitted it to my core
drill...but of course its useless
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vorn
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| posted on 10/4/09 at 05:23 AM |
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Bike motor in a bike for a reason ? Not in this case boss hoss
[Edited on 10/4/09 by vorn]
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Shadowcaster
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| posted on 10/4/09 at 05:34 AM |
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Only one engine for me the trusty Rover V8
[Edited on 10/4/09 by Shadowcaster]
Cheers Rich
The Roadster Blog http://richshaynesroadster.blogspot.com/
It does not matter how slowly you go so long as you do not stop.
Confucius Chinese philosopher & reformer (551 BC - 479 BC)
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speedyxjs
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| posted on 10/4/09 at 06:03 AM |
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quote:
Originally posted by A1
BEC!! only way to go! sooo much faster,lighter easier to put in, sounds gorgeous, 6 gears of sequential speed, lovely to work on...the list goes
on...
No reverse, high pitched drone at any decent speed, no torque, the engine is from a hairdrier, should i go on?
How long can i resist the temptation to drop a V8 in?
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fesycresy
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| posted on 10/4/09 at 07:26 AM |
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quote:
Originally posted by speedyxjs
no torque
I think too much torque is a bad thing in a 7.
Unless you like spinning up the wheels like a boy racer
I seriously thought of a CEC for the next one, and may still do, but as soon as I hear a BEC screaming, that does it for me
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The sooner you fall behind, the more time you'll have to catch up.
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Mr Whippy
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| posted on 10/4/09 at 07:43 AM |
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the novelty of a BEC would wear pretty thin quite quickly with me, especially I if had to put up with it day to day.
Fame is when your old car is plastered all over the internet
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afj
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| posted on 10/4/09 at 08:01 AM |
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i must say that i dont get the no torque reason, my r1 engine has enough grunt to out accelerate my neibours focus st turbo thing which is around
250hp , in 6th gear at 40mph all the way to 130ish, having said that next time i build i might go for a honda s2000 lump or a supercharged mr2
motor
eerrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr
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fesycresy
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| posted on 10/4/09 at 08:12 AM |
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Totally agree.
I'd vote for you
quote:
Originally posted by Paul TigerB6
quote:
Originally posted by Mr Whippy
the novelty of a BEC would wear pretty thin quite quickly with me, especially I if had to put up with it day to day.
But thats what your tintop is for - day to day!! To me, the kit car is a novelty item, a toy plain and simple. I dont want it to be practical, quiet,
civilised or return good mpg (the greens can hate me if they want). Mine's going to be for a couple of hour thrash on a sunny evening / Sunday,
to forget any worries and to put a huge smile on my face. A BEC (turbo'd) will do that for me anyway whereas i got bored of the Zetec i had in
my old car.
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The sooner you fall behind, the more time you'll have to catch up.
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Jasongray5
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| posted on 10/4/09 at 08:35 AM |
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quote:
Originally posted by coozer
quote:
Originally posted by Jasongray5
BEC, its the only thing acceptable in a 7 type car...
Your so wrong there mate...
you so got the wrong end of the stick MATE...
I was so opening the can of worms MATE...
[Edited on 10/4/09 by Jasongray5]
How hard can it be?
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t.j.
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| posted on 10/4/09 at 09:37 AM |
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Apart off the "BEC-drive-ability"
Around here there are no exemptions for emissions and sound after 1 may 2009.
So EFI, lambda and cat are needed.
Please feel free to correct my bad English, i'm still learning. Your Dutch is awfull! :-)
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daniel mason
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| posted on 10/4/09 at 10:00 AM |
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its a difficult 1 to answer as there are so many variations. mine has an R1 engine and i love it. but whilst i was at mnr last week i saw an mnr with
s2000 lump and dry sump.it looked awesome but is a very expensive installation!
[Edited on 10/4/09 by daniel mason]
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rf900rush
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| posted on 10/4/09 at 10:11 AM |
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Hi
Bike engines are often quoted on lack of torque.
If you use the power from the primary gears it a different matter.
IE my ZX12R has 98ft/lbs from the crank at 7500rpm.
Simple maths converts the 98 x 1:6) to 156ft/lbs at 4680rpm going into the gear box.
So I believe it's the torque actually going to the wheels that counts.
As for drivability, in traffic easy. coming out of a bend and not going sideways no so easy
And the most obvious thing I see, is bike makers spend milloins on performace and cars makers don't.
For example our family MPV.
Whos needs a indicator on the dash to say thats it's freezing outside.
Just imagine if Yamaha made a car engine with the technology of the 2009 R1 engine.
2litre V8 reving to 12000rpm producing 360bhp.
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