vinnie_b23
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 posted on 11/8/09 at 10:02 PM |
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K-series 1.8 vvc/type 9 box
Im currently building a locost and have decided to go for the k series 1.8 vvc plant with a ford type 9 gearbox. Im looking for guidance on this
combination i.e will i need a short or long shaft box, where can i get a bellhousing from. Has anybody already made one using this setup, if so, any
tips would be great.
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Humbug
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| posted on 12/8/09 at 06:51 AM |
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I've got a 1.4 K series + Type 9. I got the stuff in between (ali bellhousing, clutch, etc.) from old Fisher Sportscars, who at the time were
doing quite a few K series engined Furys.
GeoffT has a 1.8 K - may be worth a U2U to him.
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mackei23b
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| posted on 12/8/09 at 07:26 AM |
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Titan motorsport do a bellhousing
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britishtrident
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| posted on 12/8/09 at 08:08 AM |
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Might be better to go the ordinary K16 + throttlebody+head work and cams route than VVC.
Also the 1.8 isn't anything like as free revving as the smaller K series --- the K16 was designed as a 1.4 that could be easily stretched to
1.6 --- the 1.8 was an after thought that squeezed in the extra capacity but he head was still designed around the 1.4.
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GeoffT
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| posted on 12/8/09 at 08:46 AM |
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I'm using exactly the same setup as you're proposing, 1.8 VVC with a type 9. All done a while ago now, but from (fading...!) memory,
here's what I used :-
Caterham bellhousing with a long shaft (V6) type 9. Had to trim approx 10mm off the end of the input shaft for it to all bolt up, but I think Caterham
make a spacer which saves having to shorten the shaft. If you use this bellhousing you'll have to change the flywheel to a 10" one from
the 1.4/1.6 k.
Caterham starter motor. I had to space this back from the bellhousing, again the Caterham spacer may make this unnecessary.
Clutch, this is where things get a bit hazy - I originally tried using the Rover pressure plate, but this threw up several problems. Eventually had a
stroke of luck, and found that a Ford pressure plate I already had lying about was a perfect fit on the Rover flywheel. I think it was my original
crossflow item, but it may have been the one from the early 1.6 Sierra (circa '84ish) with the 190mm clutch. The centre plate also came from
this Sierra.
Finally the release bearing, I used the deeper Ford item, which I believe was fitted to one of the Capri variants, the part number CCT133 seems
familiar here.
All sounds complicated, but once you get all the parts together it's a fairly straightforward bolt up job, other than the mod to the shaft.
I've now done a couple of thousand miles or so on this setup without any problems.
[Edited on 12/8/09 by GeoffT]
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Hammerhead
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| posted on 12/8/09 at 10:23 AM |
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I have gone this route. Not started the engine yet but went with the setup geoffT has pretty much. The thing is I reckon this is an expensive
installation.
Caterham bellhousing and starter motors aren't cheap, even with a second hand bellhousing. I also have the shortened caterham sump.
Not sure I'd go this route again if I was starting from scratch.
Cheers.
Steve.
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Gary 7
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| posted on 12/8/09 at 11:53 AM |
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I used a QED bellhousing this has the spacer cast on for using the v6 t9 box. ford transit clutch arm,caterham ap clutch and bearing.QED lightweight
flywheel,caterham shallow sump and i adapted a reduction geared starter motor to fit with a QED starter mounting spacer.
I had a ford centred clutch plate and rover cover to start with but had some clutch slip when doing some quick starts,so went for the ap clutch good
but not cheap.
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dickie b
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| posted on 12/8/09 at 12:26 PM |
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I am currently building a Fury with a 1.8K and Type9 . I rather cheated as the whole lot was lifted lock-stock out of a Caterham 7.
In lumps on my garage floor at mo, so if you want meaurements or pics let me know.
P.S - Regarding cost.. I originally went hunting for the bellhousing to use with a 1.4 engine. Posted a 'wanted' ad on pistonheads and got
four offers in just two days.
Prices were much lower than I was expecting too. I think that £50 was lowest I was offered one at from memory.
Good luck !
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vinnie_b23
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 posted on 12/8/09 at 01:04 PM |
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Thanks for all the help guys. Great help. Let the fun begin!
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Shandylegs
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| posted on 27/10/10 at 09:25 AM |
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K Series - Type 9
Just come accross this thread.
I'm currently doing the same K Series onto Type 9 conversion (Going in a Midget) but I'm baulking at the cost of the clutch from
Caterham.
Can anyone give a definitive answer as to which ford clutch is a direct fit to the Rover flywheel.
Parts used:
1.6 K Series engine
Caterham Bellhousing with V6 type 9 box
Thanks......
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carboy0
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| posted on 8/4/12 at 06:07 PM |
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Only 17 months late in replying - 
These are the part numbers that you need
MG Rover 1.4/1.6 Flywheel - pn PSD000410
Ford Motorcraft pn
6107844 ECD131 - Friction plate - 190mm diameter / 25.4mm / 23 spline input shaft
6107849 ECP122 - Clutch cover to match
6124270 ECB113 - Clutch release bearing to match
Quinton Hazell equivalent clurtch kit QKT152AF
It just so happens that I have abadoned such a conversion and have all new parts available on EBay this evening - see auctions
Rover K series 1.4/1.6 Flywheel New - suit Rover engine with Ford Type 9 gearbox | eBay
Ford Motorcraft 3 Part Clutch Kit - suit Ford or Rover K series Kit Car | eBay
Ford Type 9 Clutch Slave Base APC6B | eBay
[Edited on 8/4/12 by carboy0]
Chris
www.marinacoupe.co.uk
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