thunderace
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| posted on 9/11/09 at 09:58 PM |
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who leaves there key in there MORTICE LOCK at night
there are loads of guys robing houses when the key is in the door over night. here is how they open it they carry a bic pen and super glue it to the
but of the key and wait 30 secomds and turn it to open the door.rob the house and also take your car,and dont think a yale is any good i can open one
as fast as you can with a key ,and i dont need a key to do it or any fancy tools.and i wont break anythind or make a lot of noise.i just filck it
open.
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luke_stephenson
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| posted on 9/11/09 at 10:03 PM |
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surely a bic pen is too big of a diameter to fit down the hole?
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thunderace
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| posted on 9/11/09 at 10:05 PM |
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ok a bic styled pen 
i have been out to some that did have a clear bic pen used.
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luke_stephenson
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| posted on 9/11/09 at 10:06 PM |
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are you a locksmith or a theif?!!
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alistairolsen
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| posted on 9/11/09 at 10:08 PM |
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I want the glue that has enough shear strength to turn a lock based on the surface area of the end of a pen.
My Build Thread
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Peteff
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| posted on 9/11/09 at 10:09 PM |
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Or even a thief ?  Only thing I ever managed to glue with stupid glue was my thumb to the worktop 
P.S. we leave the chain on as well.
[Edited on 9/11/09 by Peteff]
yours, Pete
I went into the RSPCA office the other day. It was so small you could hardly swing a cat in there.
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luke_stephenson
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| posted on 9/11/09 at 10:17 PM |
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oops i before e except after c!
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nick205
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| posted on 9/11/09 at 10:25 PM |
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Despite SWMBOs best efforts to leave the cars unlocked and the keys in the outside of the front door I always lock, chain and remove the keys. Habit
and routine are the "key" here IMHO.
I still can't get my parents to take the key out of the door at night though!
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minitici
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| posted on 9/11/09 at 10:30 PM |
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Good at finding the door key when your house is on fire?
I saw a programme on 'shed' today - where all the house doors automatically opened when the fire alarm goes off.
I'm sure a burglar could blow some smoke into the house to set off the alarm......
OK - it may be noisy but it is open...........
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deezee
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| posted on 9/11/09 at 10:35 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by alistairolsen
I want the glue that has enough shear strength to turn a lock based on the surface area of the end of a pen.
I too would like to see the glue that can withstand this kind of torque I intend to use it on my prop to gearbox fitting
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gottabedone
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| posted on 9/11/09 at 10:47 PM |
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The idea of the bic pen or more to the point a pea stick or similar is that the hand goes through the letterbox with the stick, the stick goes through
the ring that the key os on. A bit of a wiggle and the key comes out of the lock and slides down the stick to your hand. It's a similar
problem if they are on a side table or a hook near the door. This works with a bit of practise with chains as well.
Some little sh1tbags are very good at what they do - shame it's not productive though 
Steve
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LBMEFM
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| posted on 9/11/09 at 11:02 PM |
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Provided the key is away from a glazed area where the glass could be broken and the key turned it is a good idea to leave the key in. This stops
burgulars picking the lock or using a key to gain access.
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graememk
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| posted on 9/11/09 at 11:14 PM |
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you need a old wooden door like my front door, its one of them ones that only the owner can open.
you need the right key, lift the key to the left when turning whilst applying pressure with your foot to the bottom of the door so that the key will
turn as the door warps when the sun shines on it.
failing that just lob a brick through the rear window.
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ruskino80
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| posted on 9/11/09 at 11:20 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by alistairolsen
I want the glue that has enough shear strength to turn a lock based on the surface area of the end of a pen.
i use a mitrefast superglue for kitchen fitting dries in 10 seconds and is VERY strong-i would think that the pen body would give up before the glue
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blakep82
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| posted on 9/11/09 at 11:28 PM |
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used to break into my own house in a similar fashion many years ago unscrew the handle etc outside. key in the door, and there was a nice slot made
in the barrel in the factory to turn with a flat screw driver with the key left in the lock.
i was 12
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mangogrooveworkshop
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| posted on 9/11/09 at 11:29 PM |
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My extensive experiance in this field showed the burglars prefered patio doors.
Others did the house over with a furniture van.....or worse armed crims waiting for you to pullin behind you in a driveway.
I have been to loads of houses that got taken out by the crims.
There is a common lock that is used that one smack defeats it.
The fisherman method is a crude method
that is suprisingly effective in a domestic situation.
Shops were done over with pickups in running ram raids.
All I remember is that the bars we used ended up in 20mm with rebar rolling round inside. That was a big step up from the 6mm rod we started with.
Gates on the doors , bars on the windows and razor wire round the fenceline.........dont want to go back that situation ever again....
the trick with the pen is almost right but its usually a metal tube.......
and it works.
ps im not a copper or burglar.....
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mistergrumpy
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| posted on 10/11/09 at 12:35 AM |
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Pedantic I know but here goes, I can't take it any more. You can't have a house "robed" or even robbed" it's
burglary and no company with 3 letters "riped" you off, though very possibly ripped you off.
Good God its nearly as bad as the brought/bought thing.
And breaatheeee.
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Staple balls
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| posted on 10/11/09 at 01:26 AM |
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quote:
Originally posted by mistergrumpy
Pedantic I know but here goes, I can't take it any more. You can't have a house "robed" or even robbed" it's
burglary and no company with 3 letters "riped" you off, though very possibly ripped you off.
Good God its nearly as bad as the brought/bought thing.
And breaatheeee.
their theyre, your not the only one who finds stuff like that annoying 
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A1
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| posted on 10/11/09 at 02:48 AM |
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whats wrong with a good ol brick?
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scootz
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| posted on 10/11/09 at 07:34 AM |
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quote:
Originally posted by mistergrumpy
Pedantic I know but here goes, I can't take it any more. You can't have a house "robed" or even robbed" it's
burglary and no company with 3 letters "riped" you off, though very possibly ripped you off.
Good God its nearly as bad as the brought/bought thing.
And breaatheeee.
Even more pedantic, I know, but here goes... the original poster is based in Scotland, so therefore Scots Law will apply in this case. There is no
crime of Burglary in Scotland... it doesn't exist! The equivalent is Housebreaking!
Pedant mode off!
It's Evolution Baby!
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zilspeed
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| posted on 10/11/09 at 08:08 AM |
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quote:
Originally posted by mistergrumpy
Pedantic I know but here goes, I can't take it any more. You can't have a house "robed" or even robbed" it's
burglary and no company with 3 letters "riped" you off, though very possibly ripped you off.
Good God its nearly as bad as the brought/bought thing.
And breaatheeee.
Oh good, someone else who is equally annoyed about this.
Using "of" instead of "have" really hacks me off.
e.g. "I would of used the angle grinder" - "You shouldn't of done that".
Its HAVE, not OF.
Although to be fair, my main weakness is not proof reading and being left handed, letters typed by my left hand often get there before my right hand
(it's quite a common left handed thing.) So my weakness is using all the right letters, but out of sequence.
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deezee
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| posted on 10/11/09 at 08:27 AM |
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I apologise for the topic hijack. I also hate the awful spelling, especially as most web browsers spell check for you. As the communication is
solely written I don't think its too much effort to try to be clear.
My pet hate which I see all the time is "Advise needed on engine"..... Are you sure? Wouldn't you rather ask for some advice?
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Agriv8
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| posted on 10/11/09 at 08:52 AM |
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Please remember
Some people are good with numbers,
Some people are good with spanners,
Some people are good with words and sentances.
I suffer from dyslexia but I am reasonably good with numbers and spanners
Regards
Agriv8
Taller than your average Guy !
Management is like a tree of monkeys. - Those at the top look down and see a tree full of smiling faces. BUT Those at the bottom look up and see a
tree full of a*seholes .............
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roadrunner
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| posted on 10/11/09 at 10:25 AM |
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Now , Now gentlemen, I'm sure there's more deserving things out there to get all het up about.
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MikeRJ
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| posted on 10/11/09 at 10:34 AM |
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Everyone makes the odd typo or spelling mistake, and unfortunately I find they are much easier to spot AFTER you have submitted a post! I always edit
my posts if there are spelling mistakes though, I find it a bit embarrassing.
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