baz-R
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| posted on 27/11/09 at 12:06 AM |
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looking for a bit of advice
just got myself the the roadster book and spoke to the guys at 3gp at exeter show last weekend and im glad to say soon i will be moving house and have
a garage.
as i have always wanted to make up my own 7 rep im quiet intersted in a build from the ground up and i love the idea of eveything precut it saves on
mistakes.
i just have a few niggles that i would like to get a bit of advice (i have worked in garages for quiet a few years before having a change of job by
the way)
1.seirra bitts how hard is it to find a good car to brake down thease days (all the right bits you need) i see old 4x4 ones and thats about it.
granada's any good?
2. there are bits in the book that refer to mx5 alternitives anyone done any or used a complete mx5?
3. dont get me wrong but why are bmw 3 series not being used as doners thease days? there are loads about compared to the old fords
all beemers are rwd
4.is there much of a cost advantage to bilding off plan or is kit style a better option?
5.is the haynes plan correct or is there any mistakes in the drawings?
i know there is a few questions but i guss its best to ask people in the know 
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02GF74
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| posted on 27/11/09 at 07:04 AM |
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I can see from number of postat that you are new. My advice would be to consider changing your avatar to something more appropriate.
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Mr Whippy
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| posted on 27/11/09 at 07:47 AM |
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quote:
Originally posted by 02GF74
I can see from number of postat that you are new. My advice would be to consider changing your avatar to something more appropriate.
Why? Can’t you see the Princes is choking and Mario is performing the Heimlich manoeuvre…a good First Aid advice avatar that 
Fame is when your old car is plastered all over the internet
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Breaker
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| posted on 27/11/09 at 07:56 AM |
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quote:
Originally posted by 02GF74
My advice would be to consider changing your avatar to something more appropriate.
....says the guy with a pussy in his avatar....
[Edited on 27/11/09 by Breaker]
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londonsean69
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| posted on 27/11/09 at 08:07 AM |
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quote:
Originally posted by baz-R
just got myself the the roadster book and spoke to the guys at 3gp at exeter show last weekend and im glad to say soon i will be moving house and have
a garage.
as i have always wanted to make up my own 7 rep im quiet intersted in a build from the ground up and i love the idea of eveything precut it saves on
mistakes.
i just have a few niggles that i would like to get a bit of advice (i have worked in garages for quiet a few years before having a change of job by
the way)
1.seirra bitts how hard is it to find a good car to brake down thease days (all the right bits you need) i see old 4x4 ones and thats about it.
granada's any good?
2. there are bits in the book that refer to mx5 alternitives anyone done any or used a complete mx5?
3. dont get me wrong but why are bmw 3 series not being used as doners thease days? there are loads about compared to the old fords
all beemers are rwd
4.is there much of a cost advantage to bilding off plan or is kit style a better option?
5.is the haynes plan correct or is there any mistakes in the drawings?
i know there is a few questions but i guss its best to ask people in the know
To answer a few of your points
1. Sierrra's can be found, you just have to do a bit of digging. Remember, it is the mechanicals you are interested in, not the
body/interior
Personally, I'm not having a donor, just sourcing parts as and when I need them
2. Not too sure if anyone has done a complete Haynes with MX-5 bits, although I think someone in the states might be using a few bits from it
3. You can use a 3 series, but the engines can get pretty large, and the front upright needs a dummy strut arrangement. I think there are a couple of
Locost/Haynes being built with BMW donor parts
4. Depends how much you value your time. Building from plans costs less, and you can split the cost how you like, rather than stumping up, say £2k
for a basic kit (no idea on actual cotst)
BUT, you need to factor in what your time is worth to you/
Do you have the tools necessary to cut and profile steel (hacksaw and file can do the job)
Can you weld & do you have a welder
Are you actually able to accurately cut 10mm plate.
A lot of people building the haynes are doing it in different ways.
I bought the steel box section and cut and welded the entire chassis myself
I purchased any plates from 3ge that were 10mm
I blagged some 3mm and 5mm plate from a site I was visiting ans cut the rest of the chassis plates myself
I bought in pre-bent suspension brackets
5. Depends what version of the book you have.
A lot more information can be found on The Haynes Forum
There are currently around 100 roadster being built (possibly others not on the forum). 3GE are on there, so are Saturn Sportscars (now do the
bodywork, pre-welded chassis etc.) and HandyAndy (1 half of Saturn) who does pre-cut chassis flat packs.
[Edited on 27/11/09 by londonsean69]
Cheers
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Sean
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iank
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| posted on 27/11/09 at 09:17 AM |
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If using the MX5 then consider this book
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Build-Cheap-Sports-Motorbooks-Workshop/dp/0760322872/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1259313116&sr=8-1
There is a website here
http://www.cheapsportscar.net/
The author has posted here in the past, so look for posts by "Keith Tanner"
Some kit manufactures (Westfield, Aries and MNR iirc) are doing mx5 kits these days.
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Never argue with an idiot. They drag you down to their level, then beat you with experience.
Anonymous
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londonsean69
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| posted on 27/11/09 at 09:44 AM |
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quote:
Originally posted by iank
If using the MX5 then consider this book
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Build-Cheap-Sports-Motorbooks-Workshop/dp/0760322872/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1259313116&sr=8-1
If anyone wants a copy of that book, I have one that I'm not using. It's in very good condition.
U2U if interested
Cheers
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Sean
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Daddylonglegs
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| posted on 27/11/09 at 09:47 AM |
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quote:
Originally posted by Breaker
....says the guy with a pussy in his avatar....
[Edited on 27/11/09 by Breaker]
Yes, but it is a sweet looking pussy
It looks like the Midget is winning at the moment......
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hughpinder
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| posted on 27/11/09 at 10:41 AM |
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One of the westfield kits is mx5 based.
A couple of peolpe on here have used mx5 front uprights and I am also using them. I'm sure I heard that the Chris Gibbs book upright dimensions
are actually the same as a mx5 rear upruight.
regards
Hugh
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Dangle_kt
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| posted on 27/11/09 at 10:57 AM |
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Focusing on your kit questions as apposed to self build. There is a kit that works with bmws speciically as donors. Can't remember the
name...
Also as has been said, do not underestimate the commitment of a self build, check eBay, lots are sold part built as they swallow so much of your time.
With a kit at least some of the time, and ease o sourcing parts is there.
Locosts can be booming frustrating hobby at times, so go in with your eyes open. It is very rewarding too.
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quinnj3
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| posted on 27/11/09 at 11:46 AM |
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As said in previous replies locosts take an awful lot of time.
To be able to build one you need patience (lots of it), motivation (lots of it), time (lots of it), the ability to adapt situations to suit your
needs/donor parts. If you're married/girlfriend etc you will need a very undertanding one. Most jobs on a locost can probably be done using
fairly basic tools, but the more basic your tools are the more time you will need to complete. You will also need to plan jobs well in advance so
that you have the tools and parts available when you need them as waiting on parts to arrive before you move onto the next stage can really knock your
motivation. Know what you want before you start the build and stick to it as much as possible to prevent moving components etc. Do not set yourself a
budget as again this can knock your motivation.
Plenty of beer. (maybe)
Building from a kit will be much easier but you might find that after building a kit you want to try a locost but i'm sure most people will
agree that there is enough work in a kit car to satisfy most people.
hope this helps
Jonny
my aim is to build my own locost wether it takes me a week or 10 years to get started, i'm sure i will sometime
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AndyGT
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| posted on 27/11/09 at 11:57 AM |
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Maybe also let us know where you are in the world/country so that you can ask/get face to face help and advice from a friendly forum community.
you have U2U
Andy
nothing is impossible
everything is possible
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baz-R
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| posted on 27/11/09 at 12:48 PM |
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cheers lads for all your advice
as a few of you asked i live in the exeter area (devon)
i worked in the garage trade for 7 years after 2 years at collage (auto eng+elec) doing eveything pritty much evean 4 wheel alignment at the last
place as we had a fancy 4wheel set up. also worked on a few kits on the side for customers doing ajusable camtiming jobs and other tricky bits.
after getting ichey feet i went to work in a large engineering factory repairing cnc equipment and toolmaking for 6.5 years as well as a few sh1t jobs
started doing alot of tig welding in the later years and when i got made redundent  my local welding supplyier asked me to be a tec rep for them
demo'ing welding equipment and sorting peoples applications (bit to tie and salesy for me)
i work now on trains as a maintence eng/elec
and enjoy it plus i work 5 on 5off so i have a bit of spare time now and then.
i have bilt up about 3 complete tool sets over the years have a welder and have wanted to build a 7 or maybe a trike with two wheels up front (yet to
see a good one)
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baz-R
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| posted on 27/11/09 at 12:50 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by Dangle_kt
Focusing on your kit questions as apposed to self build. There is a kit that works with bmws speciically as donors. Can't remember the
name...
Also as has been said, do not underestimate the commitment of a self build, check eBay, lots are sold part built as they swallow so much of your time.
With a kit at least some of the time, and ease o sourcing parts is there.
Locosts can be booming frustrating hobby at times, so go in with your eyes open. It is very rewarding too.
gkd legend me thinks
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londonsean69
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| posted on 27/11/09 at 03:09 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by baz-R
cheers lads for all your advice
as a few of you asked i live in the exeter area (devon)
Get yourself on the Haynes forum, there are quite a few been built in the Devon/Cornwall area, and people are usually more than glad to let you pop
round and have a look/chat
Cheers
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Sean
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blakep82
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| posted on 27/11/09 at 04:10 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by Daddylonglegs
quote:
Originally posted by Breaker
....says the guy with a pussy in his avatar....
[Edited on 27/11/09 by Breaker]
Yes, but it is a sweet looking pussy
which one? mine?
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blakep82
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| posted on 27/11/09 at 05:22 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by 02GF74
I can see from number of postat that you are new. My advice would be to consider changing your avatar to something more appropriate.
i see no naughty bits on show.
there a re 2 particular forum members with what i class as much less appropriate avatars (though i have no problems with them)
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ashg
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| posted on 27/11/09 at 05:58 PM |
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look at it this way if we didnt have any smutt/porn in the world there wouldnt be any internet
Anything With Tits or Wheels Will cost you MONEY!!
Haynes Roadster (Finished)
Exocet (Finished & Sold)
New Project (Started)
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3GEComponents
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| posted on 28/11/09 at 09:44 AM |
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In answer to your questions, the Haynes can be adapted to take any components. The "problem" if you can call it that is moving away from
book parts requires the parts to be modified to fit correctly and mess up things like suspension geometry etc. Not impossible, just requires a bit of
time.
Kind regards
John
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Triton
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| posted on 28/11/09 at 04:34 PM |
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Yet to see a good trike with 2 wheels up front and one at the rear...!!!! Take it you aint seen the Black Jack Zero then
My Daughter has taken over production of the damn fine Triton race seats and her contact email is emmatrs@live.co.uk.
www.tritonraceseats.com
www.hairyhedgehog.com
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iank
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| posted on 28/11/09 at 05:19 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by Triton
Yet to see a good trike with 2 wheels up front and one at the rear...!!!! Take it you aint seen the Black Jack Zero then
If you like exo-cars then take a look at this new one (designed by MEV project bought by SmartsRUs) here:
http://www.smartsrus.com/rtr_tr1ke.html
[Edited on 28/11/09 by iank]
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Anonymous
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baz-R
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| posted on 28/11/09 at 05:30 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by Triton
Yet to see a good trike with 2 wheels up front and one at the rear...!!!! Take it you aint seen the Black Jack Zero then
i have and thort lomax!
guzzi's are pritty unrelible with a beatle g/box what looks like its fitted upsidedown but i mabe wrong and if i was going to spend that kind of
money i would be going for a grinnel scorpion i think
not to my taste at all
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RK
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| posted on 29/11/09 at 03:04 PM |
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Do whatever is the most common thing, and you will have less frustration. You'll have some anyways, but the more you stray from the norm, the
more you wish you hadn't. Sometimes, you're really on your own with this.
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