AndyLockwood
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| posted on 15/12/09 at 11:20 AM |
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1.8 silvertop
i have the posibility of purchasing a 96 silvertop with ecu but no keys im not concerned about having to cat the car i just want advise on the ease of
getting round the no keys issue
Andy 
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cliftyhanger
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| posted on 15/12/09 at 11:30 AM |
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will be using the ecu? or are you going aftermarket (carbs, efi or whatever) as the key is linked to the ECU, not the actual engine. If that makes
sense.
If you intend using the std EFI, then yes, it is important. Buy elsewhere, they are cheap enough and plentiful. Or even another ECU with keys, there
must be loads on the bay.
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AndyLockwood
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| posted on 15/12/09 at 11:34 AM |
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1.8 silvertop
the engine is in really good condition and a good price which is why im tempted. I was going to just use the standard efi unit for sva purposes then
alter after if i fancy. So i can just purchase a new ecu with keys?
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AndyLockwood
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| posted on 15/12/09 at 11:34 AM |
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1.8 silvertop
the engine is in really good condition and a good price which is why im tempted. I was going to just use the standard efi unit for sva purposes then
alter after if i fancy. So i can just purchase a new ecu with keys?
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will121
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| posted on 15/12/09 at 12:37 PM |
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some good info here from Big_wasa on previous thread ECU sure it will have the
ford PATS imobiliser where you need the matching keys, if you havent got it, ebay come up with matching sets but can be around £40-£50.
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big_wasa
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| posted on 15/12/09 at 05:47 PM |
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It will not run with out the rdif chip found in the key.
Ecu and keys sell on ebay for around £25 if your patiant.
How do you know its a good motor if it doesnt run ?
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AndyLockwood
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| posted on 15/12/09 at 07:19 PM |
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i drove the donor about two months ago very smooth engine. unfortunately keys got lost
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big_wasa
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| posted on 15/12/09 at 07:31 PM |
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great so just need to find another ecu and key.
I paid £25 for the last one, it came with a full lock set.
One before that I got for a quid.
you could have a look in your locall scrapie, the one I use, its rare to find the keys.
You can get the ecu reprogramed for a new key but thats mega bucks unless you have a mate that works for ford.
96 will be eec-v thats the 104 pin version so there is lots of wiring. The eec-v also has obd2 diagnostics so you can see whats going on with a
scanner.
[Edited on 15/12/09 by big_wasa]
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AndyLockwood
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| posted on 16/12/09 at 05:10 PM |
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PICKED UP THE ENGINE TODAY
CAME WITH ECUEscort/Orion 1.8 litre 16 Valve
93-94
Ford EECIV
92FB12A650BE
7225397
XEF2FBBE
130BHP
MONK
ENGINE COST ME NOTHING IN THE END JUST TRYING TO FIND ID NUMBERS TO WORK OUT AGE?
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big_wasa
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| posted on 16/12/09 at 06:02 PM |
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130 spec you jammy bugger. I want an inlet manifold from one of them.
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AndyLockwood
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| posted on 16/12/09 at 06:25 PM |
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hehe im chuffed to bits
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AndyLockwood
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| posted on 16/12/09 at 06:36 PM |
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its a 60 pin ecu and i have the loom. what security was fitted to this ecu. the guy said the key he had before he lost it had no chip
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big_wasa
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| posted on 16/12/09 at 06:41 PM |
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could you give me some lotto numbers as that one is pre pats and no chip. 
The alarm on the pre pats cars just switched earths.
[Edited on 16/12/09 by big_wasa]
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big_wasa
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| posted on 16/12/09 at 06:47 PM |
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some pin outs for you.
Escort
1 Battery
2
3 Speed Sensor
4 Ignition Control Module
5
6
7 ECT Sensor
8 Fuel Pump Relay
9 MAF
10
11 Emission Canister Purge (37)
12
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14 Pulsed Secondary Air Injection (37)
15
16 Ignition Control Current Return
17 Data Link
18 Engine Diagnostic Connector
19 Engine Diagnostic Connector
20 Current Return
21 Idle Control Valve
22 Fuel Pump Relay
23
24 Camshaft Position
25 IAT Sensor
26 TPS
27
28 PAS
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30
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32
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34
35 Injector 4
36 Ignition Control Module
37 Engine Control Relay
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39 Injector 3
40 Current return
41
42 Octane Coding Plug
43
44 HEGO
45
46 Sensor Common
47 TPS
48 Data Link
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50 MAF
51
52
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56 Ignition Control Module
57 Engine Control Relay
58 Injector 1
59 Injector 2
60 Current Return
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AndyLockwood
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| posted on 16/12/09 at 06:47 PM |
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yes yes yes
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big_wasa
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| posted on 16/12/09 at 06:54 PM |
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It must have been an old stock car when reged as thats a 93-94 ecu and you say the car was on a 96.
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big_wasa
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| posted on 16/12/09 at 06:58 PM |
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pic 2
 
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big_wasa
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| posted on 16/12/09 at 07:03 PM |
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I tend to bin the egr system to keep the system as bassic as pos along with the speed sensor input and a few other bits.
Pin numbers on this diagram wont match the pin out I listed above.
[Edited on 16/12/09 by big_wasa]
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big_wasa
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| posted on 16/12/09 at 07:08 PM |
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This diagram gives you an idea on how to connect the engine controle relay aswell as the fuel pump.
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AndyLockwood
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| posted on 16/12/09 at 10:27 PM |
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Thanks alot for the info
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