ThierryR
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| posted on 6/3/10 at 11:03 PM |
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Want to build a 750MC car
Hi all
new member here hoping to race in 750mc next year.
I have experience in karting but want to move to cars and have been weight up either stock hatch or locost...
I was hoping anyone could provide me with a basic guideline to build a locost for 750mc as a lot of the regs. just go over my head!
Also are there any suppliers of the chassis and cages etc?
basically does anybody know any build guides or lists of stuff i need, e.g. advised rads and suspension etc
Any help would be so appreciated
Thanks
T
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big_wasa
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| posted on 6/3/10 at 11:04 PM |
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Do a search for a user called "procomp" here and on the web.
http://www.procomp.co.uk/
[Edited on 6/3/10 by big_wasa]
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ThierryR
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| posted on 6/3/10 at 11:18 PM |
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cheers for reply, only just realised theres a section for 750mc which it should probs be in sorry.
Will have a look now, as i say, want to do the build 9apart from bare chassis) myself as its part of the fun...and the best way to be able to keep it
perfect and mechanic the car is to know how it all goes together 
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big_wasa
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| posted on 7/3/10 at 12:02 AM |
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Ah but a nice guy and he will point you in the direction........
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Fozzie
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| posted on 7/3/10 at 12:15 AM |
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Welcome to LocostBuilders Thierry...
I shall move this post over to the 'Race Issues' section for you...... 
The peeps who frequent the racing sections will be more likely to see your post in there.
There aren't that many 'book' chassis cars being built now, and the regs are quite specific, so you are more likely to get replies
in the 'Race Issues' (General Construction)
Fozzie
'Racing is Life!...anything before or after is just waiting'....Steve McQueen
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hicost blade
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| posted on 7/3/10 at 12:24 AM |
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I would defiantly speak to Pro Comp as far as I can make out they basically run the Locost championship, more than half the grid are either LA Locosts
or set up by Pro Comp. Don't be tempted to buy one of these cheap ass £750 chassis' either as you WILL regret it....
And a race spec engine is going to cost you £2000 to be competitive.
I think I remember hearing It will cost a minimum of £10k a season without the cost of a car, that’s accommodation, fuel, parts, tyres and so on.
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SMittell
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| posted on 7/3/10 at 05:21 AM |
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How we started Locost racing
We were in your position two and half years ago. We bought a procomp chassis and built the car in under 4 weeks ( we did not do much else over this
period and it did include spraying the body work on Christmas day).
We have been very pleased with the car and recommend talking with Matt and Ivan at Procomp.
Have a look at our web site www.imsm-racing.co.uk
good luck and come and have a chat with us at any of the Locost rounds. First round 5th April Castle Combe.
Ian & Scott
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GMPMotorsport
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| posted on 7/3/10 at 09:44 AM |
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Built & raced a locost from scratch, thoroughly enjoyed it but I prefer tin top racing so back in Stock Hatch, If I can help at all, give me a
shout. Have got pics of the build not sure if I have put them on here though but will check later. Good Luck.....
www.gmpdevelopments.co.uk
www.gmpmotorsport.co.uk
ARDS Instructer.
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progers
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| posted on 7/3/10 at 01:18 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by hicost blade
I think I remember hearing It will cost a minimum of £10k a season without the cost of a car, that’s accommodation, fuel, parts, tyres and so on.
You can race a season on much less than that. I run in RGB which is supposed to be a more expensive formula and I have never spent anywhere near that
amount. Never paid more than £1200 for an engine either :-)
5-6k should be a sensible budget for a season in locost unless you have a major crash and have to rebuild the car and/or have multiple engine
blow-ups.
Cheers
Paul
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ThierryR
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| posted on 7/3/10 at 03:06 PM |
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Cheers for the replies guys.
Really 10k?
thing is, I did motorsport at college, and I work with my uncle, selling used cars, which also has a bodyshop and hes a mechanic.
So the build, engine rebuilds etc etc will all be done ourselves which should save money...hence managing to race 250 karts half well.
Interesting regarding the stock hatch as I looked at that as it looks cheaper to run, but i thought the racing and performance would be better with
the locost, do they rave same weekends as theyre 750mc? if so whats the comparison in lap times?
Thanks
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Fozzie
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| posted on 7/3/10 at 07:28 PM |
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Have a look on the 750mc site...here
http://www.750mc.co.uk/racing.php
Fozzie
'Racing is Life!...anything before or after is just waiting'....Steve McQueen
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Richard Jenkins
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| posted on 7/3/10 at 09:06 PM |
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£10k for a season? My budget is half that.
Locost or Stock Hatch? I am biased but I think Locost is definitely the way to go, FWD just isn't "right" IMHO. Times are comparable
but I'd say the racing is closer, and definitely more slip-streaming, in Locost's.
Build or buy? I built my car using a Luego chassis, and a Caged roll cage. And you do know the car inside out after self build.
Suppliers & assistance? There's lots available, I've been helped by TMC Motorsport, Brian Randall (engine), Steve Hills (Luego), Brian
Mitcham (Caged), Aries Motorsport, Allied Motorsport, and would recommend them all. And ask anyone in the paddock at a race day.
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Fozzie
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| posted on 7/3/10 at 09:19 PM |
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Thierry, you haven't put a location of where you are, but have a look at the 2010 racing calender on the 750 site. You may find that there is a
race meet near you.....I would recommend going to a few meets, and I am sure that if the guys/girls are not too busy, they would be pleased to chat to
you about it .....
Fozzie
'Racing is Life!...anything before or after is just waiting'....Steve McQueen
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TimC
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| posted on 7/3/10 at 10:00 PM |
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I did the last 4 races of last year in a Stuart Taylor (now Aries car.) Aries would be my second choice after Procomp. Matt's (Procomp)
chassis are the only ones that are guaranteed to be straight and run true as far as I'm aware. The alternative would be to go elsewhere and
then pay someone e.g, TMC, Allied or Procomp to put it right. Whatever chassis you get, really don't bother going anywhere but Procomp for
dampers - their dyno is unique in that its modified for applicability to light cars and makes all the difference.
In addition to a good chassis, you need a good motor that will rev well beyond 7k rpm. Everyone will have an opinion on this, and frankly I'm
just not going there again!
The paddock is a great place to be. You might not get on with absolutely everyone but I found the vast majority of people helpful and above all
friendly.
I'm sure that Stock Hatch is a hoot but RWD and open-top has to be where the thrill of driving is to be found, and you are likely to have an
advatage from your karting - just look at how well Scott Mittell got up to soeed.
JFDI, as they say.
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procomp
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| posted on 8/3/10 at 12:47 PM |
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Hi
Just a few corrections needed there for a locost budget to do a year. 
10K Is the figure that is quoted to buy a second hand car for say 5-6K AND do a full season.
A full seasons budget can and is done by many of the competitors for 4-5K Including: All membership registration and entry fees - fuel for race car
and tow car - a few spare parts Etc - and basic accommodation such as tenting in the summer and an occasional B&B. Now if your going to go
testing for every round and stop in a 5star hotel your budget will increase.
Tyres a full set of tyres Inc buffing Delivered to your door is £200 From Polley. Engines built by reputable companies will range from £1500 - £3000
There's no real performance difference between them just the profit made by the companies. One rebuild mid season is usually recommended just to
check everything is OK in general maybe a few bearings and set of new rings. That will be £500 ish tops.
There is also the TEAM championship within the Locost championship which allows two drivers to share a car and running costs. So there is a viable
alternative to the full championship that still allows a cheaper season and still fight for a championship win.
All in all Locost is one of the cheapest and most competitive race championships with full grids and what is considered to be some of the closest
racing in the UK. The championship is well supported by three manufacturers and many individual competitor with considerable knowledge of the
championship who are always there to help and offer as much advice as you are willing to absorb.
Cheers Matt
Sorry quick non too exact description reply as work load is currently through the roof. But if there's any specific Questions regarding
anything about the locost championship Feel free to contact me either U2U or email or Tel. And ill answer any Q's.
OH and like all the 750MC championships this year. IT'S ON THE TELLY.
Edit for the Telly comment. Lol
[Edited on 8/3/10 by procomp]
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hicost blade
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| posted on 8/3/10 at 01:17 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by procomp
Hi
Just a few corrections needed there for a locost budget to do a year.
10K Is the figure that is quoted to buy a second hand car for say 5-6K AND do a full season.
Thats what I meant ..................just shows how good my memory is 
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