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deezee

posted on 10/3/10 at 10:16 PM Reply With Quote
Fitting Group 4 Rally Wheels

Right, have got hold of some ridiculously light OZ Racing wheels off a rally car. But they are meant for the longer and bigger studs used in group 4 / A. They have inserts in them, that take them down to M12 studs, but require longer studs. Can I just change the studs over on my hubs, or can you use an adapter?

Anyone got any hands on experience with this?






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dlatch

posted on 10/3/10 at 10:59 PM Reply With Quote
you will most likely need to change to longer studs but also i think the nuts are different too?
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mangogrooveworkshop

posted on 11/3/10 at 12:02 AM Reply With Quote
The other thing is if they are magnesium you have to really look after them.....






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deezee

posted on 11/3/10 at 08:32 AM Reply With Quote
Yeah, they are magnesium. To be honest, if they are made for use on a rally stage, they'll probably hold up on the road

Does anyone know any companies that deal with this stuff? I know the Sierra and Escort Cosworth had Group A / 4 wheels on some models, so people must have come across the issue before.






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iank

posted on 11/3/10 at 08:57 AM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by deezee
Yeah, they are magnesium. To be honest, if they are made for use on a rally stage, they'll probably hold up on the road



They'll certainly be strong enough, the point is they corrode 10x more enthusiastically than aluminium wheels when the paint/lacquer becomes damaged.





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nick205

posted on 11/3/10 at 09:56 AM Reply With Quote
They'll also be lifed for rally use - i.e. a rally team would use them for a set number of miles/hours/stages and then dispose of them whether visibly damaged or not, same as tyres.

That might be why they were available to you?

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deezee

posted on 11/3/10 at 10:10 AM Reply With Quote
I appreciate the warning about using magnesium wheels and I'll take that onboard, but I think its all a little melodramatic Also I was asking about fixing to a Sierra hub






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madrallysport

posted on 11/3/10 at 11:10 AM Reply With Quote
you can buy a wheel nut that allows group 4 fitting wheels to be fitted to a standard hub. I think i bought the last ones (long time ago) from rally design.





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blakep82

posted on 11/3/10 at 11:10 AM Reply With Quote
have a look at www.gartrac.com for their group 4 hubs and axles. they're very different to normal axles.
aren't your current studs m12 thread? if so, just getting longer studs from somewhere like rally design should be fine





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goaty

posted on 11/3/10 at 11:54 AM Reply With Quote
or speak to Speedshack, they do alot of wheel studs etc
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deezee

posted on 11/3/10 at 12:12 PM Reply With Quote
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Originally posted by madrallysport
you can buy a wheel nut that allows group 4 fitting wheels to be fitted to a standard hub.


Will this be ok for the IVA, or would they prefer to see longer studs? I like the sound of just using different nuts, but not if the IVA man will just fail them!






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