Promai Joe
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| posted on 13/5/11 at 05:33 PM |
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IVA pass now the bloody DVLA!
Hi everyone,
Firstly I passed today at Mitchem, all the modifications went well, but still had to move my side repeaters at the centre. I will post a seperate
thread (in the electrics section) on this for others to learn from. In my opinion the within the IVA process there seems to be to much difference in
testers interpretation of the rules.
After getting my "ticket" and nearly loosing it straight away for adjusting my speedo back to a sensible reading didn't want a
speeding ticket on the way home, possibly not the best place to do this, in their yard! (my speedo works off the front wheel and the tester wanted to
see it read 20mph in top gear at 1500rpm, the real speed was nearly 35mph, but apparently sat nav and a speed gun were not enough proof).
So I thrashed the car home (awesome fun) and got in my diesel Civic to the DVLA (stange contrast). After queing for a bit I was seen and now the DVLA
have demanded to see my vehicle. I was aware this could happen, but I am going for a Q plate not an age related or new, so not really anything to
prove, its just old used components which I have receipts for.
I gave them the IVA certificate with all of the information on signed off by another government body only hours before, but apparently this is not
enough proof! I explained to the people I spoke to, I have no more leave from work and cannot afford to hire trailer & van for a 30 second check
over. They have my full build documentation with about 60 photos and a wallet of receipts. I also suggested witnessed photos and driving the examiner
to my house, to no avail.
It is just so frustrating, today has cost me another £265 (£90 retest, £55 registration, £118 6-months tax, £2 for using a credit card!) It is hardly
lowcost!
Somewhere along the line, I am the customer and I am purchasing a service but I don't feel the customer service has been anywhere near pleasant.
Anyway nearly there and hopefully I will get some summer motoring in or before petrol is £2/litre.
Whinge over.
[Edited on 13/5/11 by Promai Joe]
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40inches
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| posted on 13/5/11 at 05:41 PM |
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Wasn't there another post recently in which someone had clarified with DVLA that an inspection wasn't necessary?
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mrwibble
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| posted on 13/5/11 at 05:41 PM |
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well done on the pass. the wallies at the dvla prolly have a target for looking at vehicles, i/e 10% of those iva'd, so you 've just been
unlucky, try not to let it get you down. your nearly there!
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Promai Joe
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| posted on 13/5/11 at 05:52 PM |
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If someone knows of the post re not having to have an inspection and any loophole it would seriously help me out.
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mackei23b
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| posted on 13/5/11 at 06:58 PM |
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This may be what you are looking for:
http://www.betterregulation.gov.uk/ideas/viewidea.cfm?proposalid=3331ed493d6b444d97bc03a2bbba312b&tunnel=bl
Cheers
Ian
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Promai Joe
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| posted on 13/5/11 at 07:10 PM |
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That is a brilliant link, thank you so much. I will get on phone on Monday. If it all works out you must let me buy you a pint.
Cheers
Joe
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Promai Joe
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| posted on 13/5/11 at 07:12 PM |
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Just read it again, and it does say new kit built vehicles, I suspect this is where I will come unstuck as it is made from old components. I
will try anyway.
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mackei23b
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| posted on 13/5/11 at 07:39 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by Promai Joe
Just read it again, and it does say new kit built vehicles, I suspect this is where I will come unstuck as it is made from old components. I
will try anyway.
Sorry didn't see that bit, but still worth a go.....
Ian
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adithorp
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| posted on 13/5/11 at 08:08 PM |
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Nice one!
...but thats the most downbeat "I've passed" post I've ever seen.
"A witty saying proves nothing" Voltaire
http://jpsc.org.uk/forum/
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Promai Joe
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| posted on 13/5/11 at 08:14 PM |
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only becasue I thought it was nearly over and wanted a Sunday blat with my mates. I am actually happy, just massively impatient.
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PeteS2k
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| posted on 13/5/11 at 08:17 PM |
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Hang on in there! Just park any perceptions of logic or common sense for a while where DVLA are concerned. Varies from centre to centre, person to
person, and week to week, I reckon.
They do have a way of knocking the wind out of your sails with process. I think it was a harder trial than the IVA, at least in terms of the patience
and tongue-biting required!
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mrwibble
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| posted on 13/5/11 at 08:34 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by PeteS2k
Hang on in there! Just park any perceptions of logic or common sense for a while where DVLA are concerned. Varies from centre to centre, person to
person, and week to week, I reckon.
They do have a way of knocking the wind out of your sails with process. I think it was a harder trial than the IVA, at least in terms of the patience
and tongue-biting required!
indeed perhaps you should be incredibly smiley and bring them all cake and biscuits, just to f**k with their tiny minds, they'll prolly call the
police...
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Confused but excited.
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| posted on 13/5/11 at 09:19 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by Promai Joe
Just read it again, and it does say new kit built vehicles, I suspect this is where I will come unstuck as it is made from old components. I
will try anyway.
Can't you argue the point that it is a NEW vehicle?
Tell them about the bent treacle edges!
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Daddylonglegs
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| posted on 13/5/11 at 09:36 PM |
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I agree, after all, it won't need an MOT for 3 years, just the same as a new car??
Anyhow, well done and you'll soon forget it all I'm sure as you enjoy our long hot summer 
It looks like the Midget is winning at the moment......
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adithorp
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| posted on 13/5/11 at 09:49 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by Promai Joe
only becasue I thought it was nearly over and wanted a Sunday blat with my mates. I am actually happy, just massively impatient.
I feel your pain but it'll be worth it in the end and trying to force the issue with DVLA is about as much use as banging your head against a
wall.
"A witty saying proves nothing" Voltaire
http://jpsc.org.uk/forum/
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dave-69isit
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welldone weres the piks lol
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Promai Joe
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| posted on 16/5/11 at 08:07 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by mackei23b
This may be what you are looking for:
http://www.betterregulation.gov.uk/ideas/viewidea.cfm?proposalid=3331ed493d6b444d97bc03a2bbba312b&tunnel=bl
Cheers
Ian
I phone the DVLA today, but no one at Swansea would comment on the above information, they also don't talk to the public from the local offices.
The best they would offer is the name of the manager at the Wimbledon branch, so I have had to write a letter.
I was super nice, commented on their excellent customer service, mentioned the aboveruling and basically begged so I don't have to spend more
money and take further holiday. We will see if this helps or if they will stand behind their redtape and make me jump through hoops like a dog at a
show!
I will keep you posted folks
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The Black Flash
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| posted on 16/5/11 at 09:23 PM |
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They really are a gang of chimps aren't they?
Still, you'll get there soon, one way or another
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Humbug
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| posted on 16/5/11 at 09:38 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by Promai Joe
Hi everyone,
Firstly I passed today at Mitchem, all the modifications went well, but still had to move my side repeaters at the centre. I will post a seperate
thread (in the electrics section) on this for others to learn from. In my opinion the within the IVA process there seems to be to much difference in
testers interpretation of the rules.
After getting my "ticket" and nearly loosing it straight away for adjusting my speedo back to a sensible reading didn't want a
speeding ticket on the way home, possibly not the best place to do this, in their yard! (my speedo works off the front wheel and the tester wanted to
see it read 20mph in top gear at 1500rpm, the real speed was nearly 35mph, but apparently sat nav and a speed gun were not enough proof).
So I thrashed the car home (awesome fun) and got in my diesel Civic to the DVLA (stange contrast). After queing for a bit I was seen and now the DVLA
have demanded to see my vehicle. I was aware this could happen, but I am going for a Q plate not an age related or new, so not really anything to
prove, its just old used components which I have receipts for.
I gave them the IVA certificate with all of the information on signed off by another government body only hours before, but apparently this is not
enough proof! I explained to the people I spoke to, I have no more leave from work and cannot afford to hire trailer & van for a 30 second check
over. They have my full build documentation with about 60 photos and a wallet of receipts. I also suggested witnessed photos and driving the examiner
to my house, to no avail.
It is just so frustrating, today has cost me another £265 (£90 retest, £55 registration, £118 6-months tax, £2 for using a credit card!) It is
hardly lowcost!
Somewhere along the line, I am the customer and I am purchasing a service but I don't feel the customer service has been anywhere near pleasant.
Anyway nearly there and hopefully I will get some summer motoring in or before petrol is £2/litre.
Whinge over.
[Edited on 13/5/11 by Promai Joe]
Sorry to hear of your woes... but I am confused: they say they need to see the car in order to register it but you still had to pay all the
registration fee, road tax etc. anyway?
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Promai Joe
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| posted on 17/5/11 at 11:33 AM |
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Don't you always have to pay? I have lean't nothing is free in this world when it comes to government bodies with 4 letter abbreviations!
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stevegough
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| posted on 18/5/11 at 07:12 PM |
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Well done, you'll be on the road before you know it.
I wasn't aware of the change to the ruling, but I can tell you (mainly to add to your frustration!!) that both my car and the one built by
rallyingden which both passed IVA earlier this year did not need to be inspected by the DVLA guys at Preston. Don't know why, but the first I
knew about it was a letter through the post after leaving my docs for one of the two kit-car DVLA men to process. The letter simply said, pay up and
an inspection by this office will not be necessary.
The link mentioned earlier may be the reason? My car was then regisered on a 'K' plate. - Rallyingden's is a 'Q' I
think.
Luego Locost C20XE.
Build start: October 6th 2008.
IVA passed Jan 28th 2011.
First drive Feb 10th 2011.
First show: Stoneleigh 1st/2nd May 2011.
'Used up' first engine may 3rd 2011!
Back on the road with 2nd engine may 24th
First PASA mad drive 26/7/11
Sold to Mike in Methyr Tydvil 19/03/14
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Promai Joe
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| posted on 21/5/11 at 09:05 AM |
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Well yesterday, as I do not have a trialer or a tow ball I had the vehicle picked up by a recovery firm and driven over to Wimbledon DVLA.
The guy came out looked at the chassis number, then went back in. He came out a few minutes later and said ok. I question how this has proved
anything, both chassis numbers on the vehicle and vin plate could have been made and put on the vehicle and everything stolen. Utterly pointless
execise and set me back another £65.
I now have to sit back and wait for their letter and my reg number. Hopefully next weekend I will be speeding round the country roads of surrey,
obviously at the correct speed officer.
The only bonus of this whole DVLA nonsence was that the recovery truck driver was an interesting guy, recommended some reading on driving legal
issues, will probably cover in another thred if I can find a decent link.
If you are in the south London area I would recommend this guy if you need a vehicle moved.
London Car Recovery
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mrwibble
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| posted on 21/5/11 at 09:11 AM |
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sorted anyway.
bunch of chimps is right.
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big_wasa
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| posted on 21/5/11 at 09:19 AM |
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Yep they are doing a great job of putting people of getting one on the road. 
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Promai Joe
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| posted on 24/5/11 at 02:56 PM |
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The DVLA acknowledged my letter but also said on cars of parts of unknown origin the ruling on the better regulation website did not count, not sure
where age related would sit, but they would accept this for new builds.
On a positive note they finally came through and I have my licence plate number - I am very excited and cannot wait to get home to put the plates
on.
Hope to see some of you soon at some events.
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