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Yorkie

posted on 12/7/11 at 12:48 PM Reply With Quote
IVA = Fail

Had my IVA test in Birmingham today and failed on a couple of things but overall was a pleasant experience.

Fail points were:
1. Noise - Recorded at 102.5db
2. Brake performance - Parking brake efficiency.
3. Gear knob - must have radius of 3.2mm. (oooops! - missed that one)
4. Exhaust clamps contactable by sphere. Just need to rotate them a little.


Had a great drive back from the test centre.

I will look into changing the Wilwood handbrake calipers for Sierra units to sort out the parking brake efficiency.

The noise will be my biggest problem, so i'm looking for a few pointers!

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speedyxjs

posted on 12/7/11 at 12:51 PM Reply With Quote
Thats a very good fail! Good luck with the retest





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Daddylonglegs

posted on 12/7/11 at 12:56 PM Reply With Quote
Good fail I believe

Next time you'll be fine





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big-vee-twin

posted on 12/7/11 at 03:39 PM Reply With Quote
I think that's a good IVA result, can you re stuff the silencer, you may need a bigger can?

Think congratulations is in order - nice to see another Panther finished

Kev





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nearly done

posted on 12/7/11 at 04:41 PM Reply With Quote
Failed my IVA on noise as well, easy fix though. Rolled out a stainless Brillo pad so it was around 1" circumfrence by 14" long wrapped it in chicken wire and inserted it into the exhaust in the lay bye outside the test centre. I also fastned a large washer into the exhaust secured on a little L shape bracket this also reduced the noise and kept the wire wool in place. Dropped from 101db to 91db. Once I had got my pass certificate in my grubby paws I took the whole lot out and dumped them in the test centres bin.

Well done on a good fail by the way.

Cheers ,Sean.

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stevegough

posted on 12/7/11 at 10:27 PM Reply With Quote
Is that ALL you failed on? - cracking result, well done - now get it "finished" and get out and enjoy this fine weather!





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First drive Feb 10th 2011.
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'Used up' first engine may 3rd 2011!
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steve m

posted on 12/7/11 at 10:37 PM Reply With Quote
As Nearly done has mentioned, as this is exactly what track boys do
apparently the marshals find a lot of wire wool about the track

steve

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adithorp

posted on 13/7/11 at 07:33 AM Reply With Quote
Hard luck!..but not bad as fails go.

If you go for Nearly Dones noise suggestion make sure it's secure; They don't like it when a hot glowing wire rat escapes across the test centres floor!

I nearly mentioned the ger shift lever when youposted your pre-test photos. If it's just the grooves you could put some O rings around them.

Exhaust clamps are an easy fix.


The Powerlite handbrake is a bit short of leverage and the Fury has a modified lever that also reduces the effectivness. I added a multiplying lever in the tunnel. It effectivly increases the leverage about x5. Nice snooth feel and holds easily on steep hills. If you've got the Wilwood SmartPads then I'd get rid of them and switch to Mintex1144 pads as well.

Here's some links to photos of my lever arrangement...

http://i189.photobucket.com/albums/z282/adrianthorp/handbrakelinkage003.jpg

http://i189.photobucket.com/albums/z282/adrianthorp/handbrakelinkage003.jpg

http://i189.photobucket.com/albums/z282/adrianthorp/handbrakelinkage001.jpg

The short cable is from a Mk4 Fiesta. I wasn't happy with the angle on the cable but otherwise it would have meant moving the rear cable mountings. In reality it makes no difference.





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BobM

posted on 13/7/11 at 11:05 AM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by adithorp
Here's some links to photos of my lever arrangement...

You don't seem to have any sort of compensator mechanism to balance the L/R handbrake? That's one of the issues I need to address before my IVA, how did you get away with that?





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adithorp

posted on 13/7/11 at 11:24 AM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by BobM
quote:
Originally posted by adithorp
Here's some links to photos of my lever arrangement...

You don't seem to have any sort of compensator mechanism to balance the L/R handbrake? That's one of the issues I need to address before my IVA, how did you get away with that?


The link bar that the 2 cables are connected to is free to pivot in the lever. It's located centrally by a groove (and rubber each side) in the lever but is able to tilt/pivot to allow for compensation. There's not a lot of compensation movement available, but it was ebnough to satisfy the SVA inspector, although in all honesty is a bit of a bodge and causes slight flexing of the cable where it attaches..
In an ideal world I'd have mounted the 2 outer cable stops further apart to allow for a larger range of compensation but I didn't think about it at the time. The whole secondary lever was an afterthought to overcome the limitations of the Wilwood h/brake calipers that worked out very well.

[Edited on 13/7/11 by adithorp]





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Yorkie

posted on 13/7/11 at 05:19 PM Reply With Quote
Thanks guys, pleased with the test.

I will repack the silencer first and check it with a noise meter i've borrowed. If i can't get it below i'll try the quick fix or db killer.

Thanks for the pics of the handbrake mod, I will have a measure to see if I can do something similar. Really need a locost approach rather than shell out on a Sierra set-up.

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AndyRead

posted on 13/7/11 at 05:47 PM Reply With Quote
Gear Leaver Surround

First Off, Well done with the IVA & Good luck with the Re-Test!

I know I'm acting a bit thick but I have looked at the previous IVA post pictures & I cant see what the problem is with the Gear leaver surround circumference.

Would someone be good enough to to explain in idiot proof English please?

Ta





Andy

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Yorkie

posted on 13/7/11 at 06:59 PM Reply With Quote
Hi,

It was the gear knob that I used that didn't have a 3.2mm radius.
I should have left the Ford one on.

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AndyRead

posted on 13/7/11 at 07:50 PM Reply With Quote
Ahahah

Thanks





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lotusmadandy

posted on 13/7/11 at 07:56 PM Reply With Quote
Hi Niel,

Thats a good fail mate,though i am very surprised by the exhaust noise.
When my MK passed SVA,with your engine in and zorst on and it was a full 10db
below the limit It was also well below the limit at croft.

I have just repacked my can and the noise has dropped noticeably.
Well done though,get it finished off and enjoy the rest of the summer.

Andy






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eddie99

posted on 13/7/11 at 08:01 PM Reply With Quote
I think i'll be pretty pleased if i walk away from my test with that fail, 2 weeks time till i'll know

Good luck with retest, Just do what the people have mentioned before and you'll pass it no issue.

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BobM

posted on 14/7/11 at 04:30 AM Reply With Quote
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Originally posted by adithorpThe link bar that the 2 cables are connected to is free to pivot in the lever. It's located centrally by a groove (and rubber each side) in the lever but is able to tilt/pivot to allow for compensation. There's not a lot of compensation movement available, but it was ebnough to satisfy the SVA inspector, although in all honesty is a bit of a bodge and causes slight flexing of the cable where it attaches..
In an ideal world I'd have mounted the 2 outer cable stops further apart to allow for a larger range of compensation but I didn't think about it at the time. The whole secondary lever was an afterthought to overcome the limitations of the Wilwood h/brake calipers that worked out very well.
Ah, thanks for the clarification. As you say, not a lot of compensation! I'm planning to attach my cables to a short length of bar to act as a sort of bellcrank with a rod end in the middle connected to the lever.

I've got the Willwoods too but seeing as my brakes are well used and bedded in I'm hoping I'll have enough braking force, it certainly works well enough.





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