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ChrisW

posted on 9/5/12 at 12:12 PM Reply With Quote
Brake ideas for my Scooter

Sorry everyone, more scooter related questions!

For those that don't know the story so far it's a mobility scooter chassis with 110cc pit bike engine running a rear axle from a kart.

I'm trying to work out what to do about brakes. A kart brake caliper would be the obvious solution, but they're designed to work off a pedal whereas I want motorbike-style handlebar brakes. Now I guess I could use a motorbike hydraulic lever, but I can't find any information on master cylinder sizes and have no idea whether this would produce a sensible amount of braking effort.

So then I looked at motorbike calipers, but it seems bike discs are thinner than the 12mm that I have on the kart axle, so I'd have to adapt a motorbike disc to fit the kart carrier. Sounds like a nightmare.

Does anyone have any pointers or bright ideas?

Thanks, Chris





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nige

posted on 9/5/12 at 01:40 PM Reply With Quote
what about pit bike or small 50cc scooter brakes
are they too big ?





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ChrisW

posted on 9/5/12 at 02:01 PM Reply With Quote
They won't take the 12mm thick disc, so I'd have to try to fit a thinner disc to the kart axle carrier.

Chris





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v8kid

posted on 9/5/12 at 02:19 PM Reply With Quote
It's quite cheap to get discs turned down I got a pair reduced to 10mm, drilled and the pcd altered for £30. Apparantly most time is spent setting them up on the lathe and thats where the cost is.

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designer

posted on 9/5/12 at 02:22 PM Reply With Quote
Don't some mountain bikes have hand operated disc brakes?
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ChrisW

posted on 9/5/12 at 02:28 PM Reply With Quote
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Originally posted by v8kid
It's quite cheap to get discs turned down I got a pair reduced to 10mm, drilled and the pcd altered for £30. Apparantly most time is spent setting them up on the lathe and thats where the cost is.



The problem with doing that is that it's a vented disc, so if you turned it down to 6-7mm you'd be left with the space in the middle!

As for mountain bike brakes, I suspect the same problem. That's if they were even man enough for the job which I doubt!

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maccmike

posted on 9/5/12 at 02:40 PM Reply With Quote
I use a front brake caliper off a pit bike. Disc is a gsxr1100. Cool thing is as its a mechanical cable operated caliper, Iv spaced it and used longer bolts to accommodate thicker disc. Cost me about 12quid off ebay.
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ChrisW

posted on 9/5/12 at 02:40 PM Reply With Quote
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Originally posted by maccmike
I use a front brake caliper off a pit bike. Disc is a gsxr1100. Cool thing is as its a mechanical cable operated caliper, Iv spaced it and used longer bolts to accommodate thicker disc. Cost me about 12quid off ebay.


Sounds interesting! Any chance of a photo?

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JAG

posted on 9/5/12 at 02:41 PM Reply With Quote
How heavy will the whole thing be with you onboard?

How many discs will be on the vehicle?





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JAG

posted on 9/5/12 at 02:41 PM Reply With Quote
ooops double post

[Edited on 9/5/12 by JAG]





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Chippy

posted on 9/5/12 at 02:43 PM Reply With Quote
Aren't all callipers made in two parts, and if so can't you just make up a spacer plate to make the calliper fit the disc, seems like a plan, :-) Cheers Ray

Must type faster. Ho Hum!

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Fred W B

posted on 9/5/12 at 03:25 PM Reply With Quote
Older karts used cable operated brake calipers

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nick205

posted on 9/5/12 at 03:29 PM Reply With Quote
Just rub your shoe on the wheel to slow down - that's what the kids round here do after they've removed the brakes from their BMX bikes






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ChrisW

posted on 9/5/12 at 03:48 PM Reply With Quote
I'd guess it's going to be the best part of 150kg with my fat arse on board. There's a single disc on the rear axle.

Chris





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Dangle_kt

posted on 9/5/12 at 05:49 PM Reply With Quote
Mini Moto caliper, cheap, cable operated, same lever as a push bike too
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ChrisW

posted on 9/5/12 at 08:26 PM Reply With Quote
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Originally posted by Dangle_kt
Mini Moto caliper, cheap, cable operated, same lever as a push bike too


Can they be spaced out to fit the kart disc?

Chris





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