NigeEss
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 posted on 9/2/14 at 10:10 PM |
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Positioning of police camera cars
In Inverness at the weekend and I saw a police car at a junction, looked like it was about
to turn right but was a couple of meters short of the dotted lines. It was only when I passed
it that I noticed it was an operational camera car.
If one of us had parked there we'd have been nicked for obstruction
Time is an illusion. Lunchtime doubly so.................Douglas Adams.
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Daddylonglegs
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| posted on 9/2/14 at 10:28 PM |
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One rule for one, one rule for another........
It looks like the Midget is winning at the moment......
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perksy
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| posted on 9/2/14 at 10:42 PM |
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Search the web and you'll see all sorts of tactics employed 
I was down south once and there was plod with a camera in a layby between a parked car that was towing a caravan...
Also in North Wales there used to be a disguised builders van with a camera that even had a screwfix catalogue on the dashboard
[Edited on 9/2/14 by perksy]
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BangedupTiger
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| posted on 9/2/14 at 10:53 PM |
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Don't break the speed limit......... Simples
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Jon Ison
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| posted on 9/2/14 at 11:01 PM |
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They have played an absolute blinder just down the road from us.
A617 as you leave the M1 traveling towards Mansfield, they have moved the 40mph limit about 1000 yds nearer the M1 junction but still on a short duel
carridge way, this is a down hill stretch approaching the end of the duel and a steep uphill stretch, they hide in a bush hidden entrance to a field
at least 3 times a week they sit there all day and must catch every car that's not local, I defy anyone even an ardent Sunday driver not to get
caught, it's all but impossible to naturally be doing 40 or less where they grab you, this new spot is definatly nothing to do with casualty
reduction and everything to do with revenue, anyone on here local who knows the spot will testify this.
Prior to moving the limit they used to sit over the hill in question opposite shops ect, fully justified to sit there but the new position just stinks
of generating cash.
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P ?
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| posted on 9/2/14 at 11:17 PM |
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I hate that !!
Don't break the speed limit !
When I drive I like to feel I'm safely watching where I'm going, not looking out for every speed limit sign and matching to my speedo.
Everyone's guilty of speeding weather it be intended or a matter of lapse of concentration.
I'm for a speed camera but don't agree they do improve safety having witnessed harsh breaking from cars infront just because they see one
regardless of the speed limit they were adhering by.
If they were revenue generators we would all be driving cars that auto limited by the speed limit areas !!!
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Andi
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| posted on 9/2/14 at 11:32 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by P ?
I hate that !!
Don't break the speed limit !
When I drive I like to feel I'm safely watching where I'm going, not looking out for every speed limit sign and matching to my speedo.
Everyone's guilty of speeding weather it be intended or a matter of lapse of concentration.
I'm for a speed camera but don't agree they do improve safety having witnessed harsh breaking from cars infront just because they see one
regardless of the speed limit they were adhering by.
If they were revenue generators we would all be driving cars that auto limited by the speed limit areas !!!
I had to go on one of those speeding courses when I got flashed.
My intention was to go there and not say a word no matter what, but I did get into a row with the woman lecturer
who said that she never speeds, which i said you must do, everyone does/has. Anyway she said she never had.
Just before we watched a film with opening message something like..... "Who speeds??? Everyone does"
Andi
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NigeEss
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| posted on 9/2/14 at 11:37 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by BangedupTiger
Don't break the speed limit......... Simples
I never said I was.
And you are obviously missing the point of the post.
Time is an illusion. Lunchtime doubly so.................Douglas Adams.
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morcus
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| posted on 9/2/14 at 11:53 PM |
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Round here they have a galaxy or simillar that has a special back window to catch people on the M4 but thats a moving one and by all accounts
they'll only get you if your doing considerably more then the limit or speeding in road works.
If they're hiding you know it's just about making money, it won't slow anyone down if they don't know it's there so
it's in no way a deterrent and as one of the above said they like to put them in places where the speed limit isn't obvious.
If your driving to the conditions then the speed your doing is irrellevent so in theory speeding itself shouldn't be an issue but as we all know
there are far to many people who don't understand this (Like how at times speeds as low as 40 on the motorway can be too fast for the
conditions) so though you shouldn't speed and most of us try not to, if you end up somewhere you don't know thats badly sign posted but
with good visablity in good conditions with nothing around that just happens to be a 40 instead of 60 and you get stung for doing 50 because you had
almost no way to know?
Also why do you never see them in 20 limits and rarely in 30? Everytime I have to go through the 20 section near the local school you get someone
trying to do 30+ trying to go into the back of the car (And they usually completely dissapear when the limit goes up to 50 around the corner).
In a White Room, With Black Curtains, By the Station.
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BangedupTiger
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| posted on 9/2/14 at 11:55 PM |
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Apparently you were breaking the speed limit as apparently everyone does?
I'm not missing the point at all. But if an individual isn't breaking the speed limit why is it relevant where a speed camera is
placed?
I fail to see how a parked car a couple of metres from a junction is causing an offence?
[Edited on 9/2/14 by BangedupTiger]
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NigeEss
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| posted on 10/2/14 at 12:12 AM |
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I wasn't speeding, I was annoyed at the position of the car. I wasn't a couple of meters from the junction
but actually on it.
Imagine yourself pulling up at a T junction in order to turn right, reverse two meters and stop. I personally
see that as obstruction.
Time is an illusion. Lunchtime doubly so.................Douglas Adams.
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Jon Ison
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| posted on 10/2/14 at 12:15 AM |
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What's your day job, photographer ?  <- smiley.
Camera vans are generally located where it is safe to exceed the posted limit, otherwise it wouldn't be lucrative now would it? Now what would
be the point of positioning one in a 30 where 30 was justified by the very nature of the road, wouldn't catch many would they other than the
ones that deserved and needed it?
I'm sorry the one I pointed out above is without doubt an engineered cash generator and nothing to do with road saftey, nothing.
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r1_pete
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| posted on 10/2/14 at 07:58 AM |
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quote:
Originally posted by BangedupTiger
Apparently you were breaking the speed limit as apparently everyone does?
I'm not missing the point at all. But if an individual isn't breaking the speed limit why is it relevant where a speed camera is
placed?
I fail to see how a parked car a couple of metres from a junction is causing an offence?
[Edited on 9/2/14 by BangedupTiger]
Source: Direct Gov.
Laws RTA 1988, sect 22 & CUR reg 103
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You MUST NOT leave your vehicle or trailer in a dangerous position or where it causes any unnecessary obstruction of the road.
Rule 224 of the Highway Code
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DO NOT stop or park...opposite or within 10 metres (32 feet) of a junction, except in an authorised parking space
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40inches
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| posted on 10/2/14 at 08:35 AM |
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quote:
Originally posted by Jon Ison
They have played an absolute blinder just down the road from us.
A617 as you leave the M1 traveling towards Mansfield, they have moved the 40mph limit about 1000 yds nearer the M1 junction but still on a short duel
carridge way, this is a down hill stretch approaching the end of the duel and a steep uphill stretch, they hide in a bush hidden entrance to a field
at least 3 times a week they sit there all day and must catch every car that's not local, I defy anyone even an ardent Sunday driver not to get
caught, it's all but impossible to naturally be doing 40 or less where they grab you, this new spot is definatly nothing to do with casualty
reduction and everything to do with revenue, anyone on here local who knows the spot will testify this.
Prior to moving the limit they used to sit over the hill in question opposite shops ect, fully justified to sit there but the new position just stinks
of generating cash.
I noticed that the last time I was down there. I slowed down, the BMW behind me didn't, he overtook me just before the cash machine came into
view. I had to smile, am I evil
[Edited on 10-2-14 by 40inches]
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Peteff
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| posted on 10/2/14 at 09:29 AM |
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quote:
Originally posted by Jon Ison
They have played an absolute blinder just down the road from us.
A617 as you leave the M1 traveling towards Mansfield, they have moved the 40mph limit about 1000 yds nearer the M1 junction but still on a short duel
carridge way, this is a down hill stretch approaching the end of the duel and a steep uphill stretch, they hide in a bush hidden entrance to a field
at least 3 times a week they sit there all day and must catch every car that's not local
They've done the same coming into Clay Cross on the A61 from Tupton, you just come over the brow of a hill onto the flat then 50 to 30 in about
40 yards. It must have made them a fortune.
yours, Pete
I went into the RSPCA office the other day. It was so small you could hardly swing a cat in there.
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andrew
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| posted on 10/2/14 at 09:42 AM |
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signs
How many times have you driven down the road and thought what is the speed limit on here , some signs are so hard to spot and the limits seem to
change up and down at random as you drive along the same road,, and yes i agree it is all about revenue ,, we even had a black unmarked police bike
and the rider in black leathers the only visible police sign was on the back of his helmet that was around here that would get up behind other bikers
and goad them into speeding , but that now seems to have gone too many complaints i think ,
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whitestu
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| posted on 10/2/14 at 12:18 PM |
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A lot of the councils round here use smart cars with cameras on them to get people on box junctions. The ones in Haringey park on box junctions in
their camera car.
Its all about making money and nothing to do with road safety.
To anyone saying 'if you aren't speeding why worry?' I assume you'd be happy to be micro chipped so the police can track you
at all times.
after all if you aren't breaking the law why worry!
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coyoteboy
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| posted on 10/2/14 at 06:42 PM |
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quote:
I fail to see how a parked car a couple of metres from a junction is causing an offence?
Also rule 243 iirc, you should not park within 10m of or opposite any junction.
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