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beaver34

posted on 30/11/15 at 08:05 AM Reply With Quote
High power type 9 users

anyone running quite high power through a type 9 what clutch do you run?

i have around 260lbft and run a 7.25 ap racing single plate clutch but its savage and not nice at all to use.

im wanting to know if can change to a paddle and it will take the torque and make it more drivable

thanks

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Rich J

posted on 30/11/15 at 08:58 AM Reply With Quote
Speak to Helix - they do sprung centred paddle type and heavy duty organic plates which should help your situation
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jeffw

posted on 30/11/15 at 09:42 AM Reply With Quote
I have a 200mm lightweight flywheel with a sprung AP clutch which copes with 300 ft/lb. All from Burtons.






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beaver34

posted on 30/11/15 at 10:21 AM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by jeffw
I have a 200mm lightweight flywheel with a sprung AP clutch which copes with 300 ft/lb. All from Burtons.


is it a 6 or 4 paddle Jeff?

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jeffw

posted on 30/11/15 at 11:37 AM Reply With Quote
from memory a 4 paddle. I'll get the details for you when I get home.






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beaver34

posted on 30/11/15 at 11:40 AM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by jeffw
from memory a 4 paddle. I'll get the details for you when I get home.


great thanks

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Ben_Copeland

posted on 30/11/15 at 11:42 AM Reply With Quote
309ftlb with mine and the standard ford galaxy clutch is fine





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jambojeef

posted on 30/11/15 at 12:21 PM Reply With Quote
Ben,

Thats really interesting - what flywheel are you using?

Galaxy clutch and pressure plate?

Geoff

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Ben_Copeland

posted on 30/11/15 at 01:21 PM Reply With Quote
Hi mate. Vauxhall 8v flywheel from C20NE I believe and Galaxy 2.8 petrol friction plate with Vauxhall pressure plate.

Bit of a mix of components!





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jambojeef

posted on 30/11/15 at 01:31 PM Reply With Quote
cool cheers for that!

Wonder if that clutch plate would be too big for my vvc flywheel

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mark chandler

posted on 30/11/15 at 01:44 PM Reply With Quote
I had helix make up a 6 paddle sprung clutch for my DB7, 385hp 370ft/lb torque, 240mm it feels like a standard organic clutch apart from very little snatching if you try and pull away with very low revs.

It provides a much lighter pedal with their matched cover than the original DMF effort it replaced, I was concerned it would be on/off, that's not the case in my instance.

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jeffw

posted on 30/11/15 at 07:43 PM Reply With Quote
215mm flywheel with

AP CP5354-38 clutch
AP CP2511-1 cover

288 ft lb

I'm actually going to be taking this off the care as I really need a 184mm flywheel clutch for the Sequential. This 4 paddle is heavy (with cable clutch) but you can slip it fine and it drives on the road fine.






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beaver34

posted on 30/11/15 at 07:56 PM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by jeffw
215mm flywheel with

AP CP5354-38 clutch
AP CP2511-1 cover

288 ft lb

I'm actually going to be taking this off the care as I really need a 184mm flywheel clutch for the Sequential. This 4 paddle is heavy (with cable clutch) but you can slip it fine and it drives on the road fine.


i have a 184mm currently and want to go the other way, if you want to buy my ap setup drop me a pm, its rated over 300lbft

ill speak with ap regards your part numbers, the issue i am having is getting a cover to do the job without it being £700 that ap are quoting

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jeffw

posted on 30/11/15 at 08:29 PM Reply With Quote
Drop me a PM with the details of your setup and I'll take a look.

the 215mm setup will be less than £700 for the cover plate/clutch/flywheel. Have a look at the Burton site for prices.






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AndyGT

posted on 30/11/15 at 09:27 PM Reply With Quote
Hi Ben

A small deviation in topic, but why the 8v flywheel? Lighter?/stronger?/Cheaper?



quote:
Originally posted by Ben_Copeland
Hi mate. Vauxhall 8v flywheel from C20NE I believe and Galaxy 2.8 petrol friction plate with Vauxhall pressure plate.

Bit of a mix of components!






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Ben_Copeland

posted on 30/11/15 at 09:59 PM Reply With Quote
Lightweight and it's the only flywheel that I could find that would fit due to the bolt pattern on the z20let. Different to the older c20lets. The original flywheel was a big lump and not very sporty.

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mark chandler

posted on 30/11/15 at 10:11 PM Reply With Quote
My helix 6 paddle from mardigras Motorsport 6 paddle kit is £450.13 plus vat last year + £25 for a new release bearing.
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beaver34

posted on 1/12/15 at 08:07 AM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by jeffw
Drop me a PM with the details of your setup and I'll take a look.

the 215mm setup will be less than £700 for the cover plate/clutch/flywheel. Have a look at the Burton site for prices.


there is no cover that will take the torque i have in the correct fitment that is the issue i have, friction plate is not an issue there are loads of options at the right price.

im running the ford sigma engine and ap only rate there pressed steel cover to 196lbft.

i have spoke to ttv they will make me a flywheel and clutch but again im looking around that £700 mark

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jeffw

posted on 1/12/15 at 09:17 AM Reply With Quote
I maybe barking up the wrong tree here but...

My flywheel/cover/ paddle are all for a Pinto. If you have a 215mm flywheel that will take a Pinto clutch made for the Sigma then you can use the same AP items as mine. 1" x 23 will be the same regardless.






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beaver34

posted on 1/12/15 at 09:20 AM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by jeffw
I maybe barking up the wrong tree here but...

My flywheel/cover/ paddle are all for a Pinto. If you have a 215mm flywheel that will take a Pinto clutch made for the Sigma then you can use the same AP items as mine. 1" x 23 will be the same regardless.


no your right ive realised that this morning, ill speak to ttv today as they list one on there site

thanks jeff

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