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cliftyhanger

posted on 2/3/16 at 05:49 AM Reply With Quote
American election question

Excuse me for being thick, but who actually votes in these "primaries"?
I have read wikipedia which hasn't helped. I still don't know.
Is it everybody who wishes to vote, like the actual presidential election? or more like Labour over here where signed-up party members only vote?

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posted on 2/3/16 at 08:35 AM Reply With Quote
I believe its registered party members.





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Dick Axtell

posted on 2/3/16 at 09:27 AM Reply With Quote
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Originally posted by Doctor Derek Doctors
I believe its registered party members.


Agreed. Speaking to an American visitor, some time back, they told me that - if you were a registered Democrat, you could only vote for the Democrat nominee, similar condition for the Republicans. If you wanted to vote independently, you had to have been a registered Independent.





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posted on 2/3/16 at 10:23 AM Reply With Quote
It's registered party members voting for who will be that party's candidate in the presidential election. Like lab /con members voting to chose their leader.

The actual presidential election happens later.





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britishtrident

posted on 2/3/16 at 11:42 AM Reply With Quote
The thought of Trump wining especially with Putin in the Kremlin seriously is seriously frightening. Up here in Scotland we have seen some seriously nasty tactics towards home owners that Trump wanted to get rid of because they got in the way of his golf resort.

If you are a US voter please vote Democrat not Drumpf.





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cliftyhanger

posted on 2/3/16 at 02:45 PM Reply With Quote
Thanks chaps, does make sense. It is just the way the media reports it, it comes over as an "everybody can vote" contest. But then again that is tehy American media all over.

Must say the thought of Trump worries me, but Mrs Clinton is not much better. All nuts, the bunch of them. And we will have to suck up to them big time if we exit the EU (and even if we remain).

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loggyboy

posted on 2/3/16 at 02:55 PM Reply With Quote
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Originally posted by britishtrident
The thought of Trump wining especially with Putin in the Kremlin seriously is seriously frightening. Up here in Scotland we have seen some seriously nasty tactics towards home owners that Trump wanted to get rid of because they got in the way of his golf resort.

If you are a US voter please vote Democrat not Drumpf.


They aren't voting between the 2 parties yet.
I don't doubt if Drumpf wins the nomination, it will just make Hillary's job of being first female president that little bit easier.





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jeffw

posted on 2/3/16 at 04:19 PM Reply With Quote
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Originally posted by britishtrident
The thought of Trump wining especially with Putin in the Kremlin seriously is seriously frightening. Up here in Scotland we have seen some seriously nasty tactics towards home owners that Trump wanted to get rid of because they got in the way of his golf resort.

If you are a US voter please vote Democrat not Drumpf.


If he gets in does that mean there will be another Scottish Referendum I'm sure Alex Salmond greased the path for Trump in Scotland.

Always a fun read

http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/uk/alex-salmond-an-embarrassment-to-scotland-donald-trump-says-34364346.html






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Texan

posted on 2/3/16 at 06:57 PM Reply With Quote
Any registered voter can vote, but they can only vote on one side or the other. At this point they are just working out who will end up being the Presidential candidates.

Trump is by far the better candidate than Hillary, if that tells you anything about her. But still not the ideal candidate by a long shot. He's just had the money and enough people are fed up with the current crop of career criminals, I mean politicians that they'd vote for a trained monkey rather than a Democrat.

Trump has zero backing from Congress so nothing he's spouting off will come about. But if another Democrat gets into office then there won't be an America for very long. We'll be a third world country. And that's not just rhetoric. We are on a cusp at the moment and a little shove in either direction and we fall off a cliff.





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loggyboy

posted on 2/3/16 at 07:39 PM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Texan

Trump is by far the better candidate than Hillary, if that tells you anything about her. But still not the ideal candidate by a long shot. He's just had the money and enough people are fed up with the current crop of career criminals, I mean politicians that they'd vote for a trained monkey rather than a Democrat.




A habitual liar vs the wife of arguably the most successful president in recent times.
Ok thats a very simplistic view from a limited perspective but fact that Trumps managed to get as far as he has sums up how stupid groups of educated people can be, and how blind and sheep like they can be.





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perksy

posted on 2/3/16 at 07:55 PM Reply With Quote
I shudder to think what would happen if Trump got the final nod as president in the current global climate
and can't believe that the american's would be daft enough to elect him to the oval office with the potential of his 'finger on the trigger'

I read yesterday that certain elements within the armed forces would defy him on some of the changes he wants to make


If you've got Netflix watch "You've been Trumped"

Wouldn't have happened if William Wallace had still been about

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posted on 2/3/16 at 08:17 PM Reply With Quote
http://www.trumpdonald.org/

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JoelP

posted on 2/3/16 at 08:19 PM Reply With Quote
There's a good chance you'll end up feeling the Bern, texan! He's polling well in Democrat states, and beats all GOP candidates in head to head polls. With a bit of luck, you might catch Europe up!





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mark chandler

posted on 2/3/16 at 08:33 PM Reply With Quote
Trumps rhetoric is scary, if he gets in then America will be in real trouble.
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Ugg10

posted on 2/3/16 at 10:09 PM Reply With Quote
The thought that the world could be run by Putin, Trump and Johnson in a years time is even more scary whe you think that Johnson is the sensible one!

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jeffw

posted on 2/3/16 at 11:25 PM Reply With Quote
As opposed to Trump, Putin & Corbin?






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Texan

posted on 3/3/16 at 04:11 AM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by loggyboy
quote:
Originally posted by Texan

Trump is by far the better candidate than Hillary, if that tells you anything about her. But still not the ideal candidate by a long shot. He's just had the money and enough people are fed up with the current crop of career criminals, I mean politicians that they'd vote for a trained monkey rather than a Democrat.




A habitual liar vs the wife of arguably the most successful president in recent times.
Ok thats a very simplistic view from a limited perspective but fact that Trumps managed to get as far as he has sums up how stupid groups of educated people can be, and how blind and sheep like they can be.


Or another way to say it is that the President that gave us the housing crisis and the crash. Also the President that took credit for the good deeds and laws the previous President put into place and then undid a huge amount of very positive momentum.

And you don't think Hillary is a habitual liar???? She's an outright crook on top of it. The people voting for Trump think he'll shake things up, but those are also the people who voted for Obama because he was (sorta) Black.





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cliftyhanger

posted on 3/3/16 at 06:08 AM Reply With Quote
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Originally posted by loggyboy


A habitual liar vs the wife of arguably the most successful president in recent times.
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Not so sure about that. His achievements do not compared to what old Ronnie did.
RR was the one who effectively brought the cold war and the nuclear arms race to an end (or at least got the process well underway) which is a fact easily forgotten.
I suppose he did fund the Afghan rebels against the USSR invaders, that was a bit of an error, but at the time seemed sensible, and something all American presidents seem to do one way or another. Not sure they actually understand the long term consequences of that sort of action, despite the many lessons they should have learnt fro their predecessors.

Clinton just seemed to nod at the right time, and like other world leaders of the time rode the world economic wave that they inherited. And like others got out in time still smelling of success leaving others to deal with the impending downturn. Bit like Mr Blair (who still manages to keep a low profile despite numerous attempts to expose him)

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JoelP

posted on 3/3/16 at 07:57 AM Reply With Quote
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Originally posted by jeffw
As opposed to Trump, Putin & Corbin?


It's laughable that you'd even compare a buffoon like Boris to a legend like Corbyn.





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loggyboy

posted on 3/3/16 at 09:06 AM Reply With Quote
Sums it up for me.

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BenB

posted on 3/3/16 at 09:46 AM Reply With Quote
Hillary has never lied though she did "mispeak" about that whole landing under sniper fire in the former Yugoslavia. Still reckon to "mispeak" is to have a speech impediment not telling bare faced lies. Still, better than the nutter with the crazy hair (suits the rest of him).
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posted on 3/3/16 at 10:18 AM Reply With Quote
I'm not all that interested in Politics, always consider myself as a serf, always voted though, but to my beliefs of who would do the best job, more often then not no one ever does ! Reading this thread is a bit alarming, and the thought of the lunatics taking over the asylum is now becoming very real. Armageddon? maybe. The break up of the EU is becoming a reality and the search for power could lead to conflict. 1914-18 and 1939-45 both started in Europe.
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