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Author: Subject: Zetec Cooling - i give up!!
ttalps2000

posted on 31/10/17 at 01:20 PM Reply With Quote
Zetec Cooling - i give up!!

Right! Been trying to find a cooling system layout for a silvertop Zetec, using a heater that appears to work fine. However there seems to be millions of versions out there of what is right and wrong!

Can anyone advise which is the best version to use please?

I am using a header tank and not using a water rail. Heater also fitted.

Thank you

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stevebubs

posted on 31/10/17 at 01:29 PM Reply With Quote
http://www.locostbuilders.co.uk/viewthread.php?tid=177349

This is pretty much the same layout I put in place 13 years ago...

[Edited on 31/10/17 by stevebubs]

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loggyboy

posted on 31/10/17 at 01:30 PM Reply With Quote



Heater taps in to the back of the thermo (not shown but its there) and its return is tee'd on to header supply.


[Edited on 31-10-17 by loggyboy]






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stevebubs

posted on 31/10/17 at 01:33 PM Reply With Quote
Yup - the above is the same as mine. However I just have a manual bleed screw in the Radiator, no pipe from the rad to the header tank.
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ttalps2000

posted on 31/10/17 at 01:36 PM Reply With Quote
where is the best place to plumb the heater into? I cant put a bleed pipe in the top of the rad as it is a plastic Polo rad. So take it off the top hose instead?
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coozer

posted on 31/10/17 at 03:03 PM Reply With Quote
Heater runs out of the back of the thermo housing and returns into the bypass hose. That's the oem setup.





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jossey

posted on 31/10/17 at 09:07 PM Reply With Quote
Mine is same as the pic but without a bleed on the rad. My issue was caused by expansion tank filling up full. Been fine since new bigger tank.

Get the expansion tank high a possible or it won't bleed

[Edited on 31/10/17 by jossey]





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ttalps2000

posted on 1/11/17 at 01:15 PM Reply With Quote
cheers for all the help, will get it sorted shortly!
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ttalps2000

posted on 23/11/17 at 12:56 PM Reply With Quote
I have done the cooling as per Loggyboy's image. However when I turn the engine off I get some gurgling now! Appear to have all the air out, but the header tank does fill up when running!

Do I need a bigger header tank or still got air in the system?

Thanks

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Paul Turner

posted on 25/11/17 at 04:18 PM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by loggyboy



Heater taps in to the back of the thermo (not shown but its there) and its return is tee'd on to header supply.


[Edited on 31-10-17 by loggyboy]


Well the downright cheek of some forum users.

That is a drawing I created some years ago to show how my Zetec has been piped up for probably 15 years or more now and whilst i don't mind it being referred to I find it truly despicable that another user should simply insert my drawing with no reference to its source.

I guess if you are too idle to create your own drawing its OK to steal another.

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ttalps2000

posted on 5/12/17 at 08:43 AM Reply With Quote
I have done the cooling as per Loggyboy's image. However when I turn the engine off I get some gurgling now! Appear to have all the air out, but the header tank does fill up when running!

Do I need a bigger header tank or still got air in the system? I'm going to raise up the header tank as much as possible tonight too.

I have T'd the heater return and header and the bypass all into 1 feed into the bottom hose. Should I have 2 separate ones really? Cant see it is going to make any difference though!

Also I'm not running the rad bypass as the rad doesn't have one, is this an issue?

Thanks

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Paul Turner

posted on 5/12/17 at 08:51 AM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by ttalps2000
I have done the cooling as per Loggyboy's image.
Thanks


Its not Loggboys image, its mine. Read the post above.

For pities sake when will a moderator remove Loggyboys post. I spend time drawing that, at least Loggyboy should have the decency to acknowledge the fact.

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Paul Turner

posted on 5/12/17 at 08:57 AM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by ttalps2000
I have done the cooling as per THE THIEF@S image. However when I turn the engine off I get some gurgling now! Appear to have all the air out, but the header tank does fill up when running!

Do I need a bigger header tank or still got air in the system? I'm going to raise up the header tank as much as possible tonight too.

I have T'd the heater return and header and the bypass all into 1 feed into the bottom hose. Should I have 2 separate ones really? Cant see it is going to make any difference though!

Also I'm not running the rad bypass as the rad doesn't have one, is this an issue?

Thanks


Well I drew the image and that is exactly as mine is plumbed. The heater (iff fitted) is plumbed into the stat housing, a tee piece is required for the bypass hose end.

If you are not running a bypass it will not work correctly.

So why say I have done the cooling as per image when you haven't

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ttalps2000

posted on 5/12/17 at 09:17 AM Reply With Quote
if you are not going to actually help and be pleasant then kindly refrain from commenting further as you are not being at all helpful!
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Paul Turner

posted on 5/12/17 at 09:53 AM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by ttalps2000
if you are not going to actually help and be pleasant then kindly refrain from commenting further as you are not being at all helpful!


Thank the fekin thief for my current attitude.

Ayway, please tell me what was unhelpful about my reply.

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ttalps2000

posted on 5/12/17 at 10:07 AM Reply With Quote
the only thing that is not as per the image is the rad top bypass back to the top of the tank. However several users have stated they do not run one with no issues anyway! so was simply asking what it does and does it matter and also that the main bypass, expansion tank and heater are all run into 1 connection to the bottom hose.
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theduck

posted on 5/12/17 at 10:10 AM Reply With Quote
Paul, it is inserted here from your photo archive on this forum, so if you are really that unhappy about it being shared in order to help other people you should just remove it from your photo archive.
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Paul Turner

posted on 5/12/17 at 10:15 AM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by theduck
Paul, it is inserted here from your photo archive on this forum, so if you are really that unhappy about it being shared in order to help other people you should just remove it from your photo archive.


So anyone can access my photo archive and insert my photo's. That is a new one on me. But since I now know that I think I will be inserting some peoples photo's on may sites on the web. Hope they like it.

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big_wasa

posted on 5/12/17 at 10:39 AM Reply With Quote
Yes any one can 're post them on here or any where once there hosted here.

Only point to note, if you put them up out side of the Lcb forum they have an Lcb water mark across the bottom.

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SJ

posted on 5/12/17 at 11:14 AM Reply With Quote
quote:

quote:
Originally posted by theduck
Paul, it is inserted here from your photo archive on this forum, so if you are really that unhappy about it being shared in order to help other people you should just remove it from your photo archive.


So anyone can access my photo archive and insert my photo's. That is a new one on me. But since I now know that I think I will be inserting some peoples photo's on may sites on the web. Hope they like it.



When you upload a photo to the internet you pretty much need to accept it is no longer yours.

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Paul Turner

posted on 5/12/17 at 11:17 AM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by SJ
When you upload a photo to the internet you pretty much need to accept it is no longer yours.


But would it not be quite nice if the thief had the common decency to acknowledge where they obtained the image.

Obviously not with some members.

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theduck

posted on 5/12/17 at 11:49 AM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Paul Turner
quote:
Originally posted by theduck
Paul, it is inserted here from your photo archive on this forum, so if you are really that unhappy about it being shared in order to help other people you should just remove it from your photo archive.


So anyone can access my photo archive and insert my photo's. That is a new one on me. But since I now know that I think I will be inserting some peoples photo's on may sites on the web. Hope they like it.


Donít deliberately misquote me. Reposting it within this forum is fine, Posting it elsewhere without permission or crediting the source is not fine all from a strict copyright point of view, but honestly in this instance you are more than over reacting. No harm or loss has come to you by it being shared without credit, no thatís not quite true, but the only harm has been caused by you by reacting the way you have.

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starterman

posted on 5/12/17 at 07:15 PM Reply With Quote
I started reading this thread as I thought it was interesting and of use to me but then it goes downhill into the school playground. Maybe those responsible for the childish posts could remove them and we could get back to a useful and informative thread.
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jossey

posted on 5/12/17 at 09:17 PM Reply With Quote
So is the cooling issue solved?





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ttalps2000

posted on 5/12/17 at 09:21 PM Reply With Quote
well not really got the reply i was looking for

Going to change a few things tomorrow and will report back. Might start a new thread though!

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