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sdenne

posted on 15/7/20 at 04:55 PM Reply With Quote
Sylva or STM Phoenix?

Hello,
I am from Germany and I recently bought a Phoenix 2001 - I will get the car at the end of July so I only have these pictures.
I would like to know if it is a Sylva or STM car. The VIN starts with BFC...

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SPYDER

posted on 15/7/20 at 07:42 PM Reply With Quote
The badge would suggest that it is a Sylva.
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sdenne

posted on 15/7/20 at 07:45 PM Reply With Quote
Hello Spyder,
thank you for the answer but the picture is not good enough that you can see that it is a Lotus badge.
Stefan

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sdenne

posted on 15/7/20 at 07:50 PM Reply With Quote
Hello Spyder again,
your chassis is made of round tubes, mine is made of square tubes - could this be a hint that it is a Sylva?

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SPYDER

posted on 15/7/20 at 08:22 PM Reply With Quote
My car is a 2005 round tube chassis designed by STM. I don't know exactly when STM bought the Phoenix from Sylva but i think it was 2001. That likely means that your car could be from either manufacturer. It should tell you on the paperwork when you get it.
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Norfolkluegojnr

posted on 15/7/20 at 10:03 PM Reply With Quote
my sylva fury is square tube if that helps at all - looks identical under the bonnet to yours.
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skippad

posted on 17/7/20 at 08:32 AM Reply With Quote
I was building an STM Phoenix in 2007/8
The only difference i can see on photos are the rocker arms ...STM has strengthener bar across top of rocker arms

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adithorp

posted on 17/7/20 at 12:19 PM Reply With Quote
I thought STM made square tube chassis before introducing the round tube version but I could be wrong.

Norfolkluegojnr, though the JP chassis are simlar in many ways the Fury and Phoenix/Striker vary in the front suspension. Fury rocker is above the chassis and under on Phoenix/Strikers. The Phoenix/Striker are also narrower in the cockpit.





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jeffw

posted on 19/7/20 at 07:56 AM Reply With Quote
Highly unlikely to be a Sylva with round tube chassis. Does the chassis plate not give you a clue ?
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adithorp

posted on 19/7/20 at 05:11 PM Reply With Quote
Jeff, the OP's car is square tube chassis. Question is did STM make a square tube. My recollection is they did both but if not that'd seal it as a Sylva.

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Originally posted by sdenne
Hello Spyder again,
your chassis is made of round tubes, mine is made of square tubes - could this be a hint that it is a Sylva?






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jeffw

posted on 19/7/20 at 09:10 PM Reply With Quote
Sorry, wrong end of the stick. I think they did but the hint will be the chassis plate
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MikeR

posted on 19/7/20 at 11:27 PM Reply With Quote
I thought the big thing with the STM chassis was it entirely laser cut round tube.
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yogibear1969

posted on 26/7/20 at 08:40 PM Reply With Quote
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[The VIN starts with BFC...


Hi,
VIN starting BFC is very strange, I'd like to see what the Chassis plate says. What is it registered as?
Edd

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sdenne

posted on 26/7/20 at 09:01 PM Reply With Quote
Hello,
I will let you know - I will get the car on tuesday.
In Germany some of these cars are registered as Lotuses, Westfields, etc. with older first registration due to the emissions regulations.
sdenne

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