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subk2002

posted on 4/2/05 at 06:45 PM Reply With Quote
Redundancy ?

Well i was made redundant on wednesday

Im wondering what do i do now?
Im only 24 so i will get 4 weeks pay as redundancy. I was at the company 8 1/2 years i will also get 8 weeks notice but if i go out and get a job tomorrow i wont get my 8wks .So what do i do ,go on the doll and not work for 8wks so i get my money or somthing els?

Any help would be great

Cheers Drew

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aweekes1

posted on 4/2/05 at 06:49 PM Reply With Quote
Don't waste a second, get out there and geta new job. I was made redundant last September and I'm still out of work and about to lose my home! Don't wait, it will look unusual to a prospective employer, just get stuck in...
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zilspeed

posted on 4/2/05 at 06:51 PM Reply With Quote
Drew

That is seriously b***ocks news mate

Any chance of picking up a wee bit of cash in hand until something decent comes along ?
Yes - I know it's wrong - but if you're going to be looking for a decent job anyway...

P.S. What do you do for a living - I can keep my ear to the ground.

[Edited on 4/2/05 by zilspeed]






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subk2002

posted on 4/2/05 at 06:55 PM Reply With Quote
I forgot to say that im a Joiner to trade

[Edited on 4/2/05 by subk2002]

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stevebubs

posted on 4/2/05 at 07:02 PM Reply With Quote
http://www.dti.gov.uk/er/redundancy/payments-pl808a.htm#What%20payments?

[Edited on 4/2/05 by stevebubs]

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marcyboy

posted on 4/2/05 at 07:06 PM Reply With Quote
at least you've got a trade...
good luck in what ever you decide to do...
i was made redundant last july and even though i new it was gonna be likely 6 months before...i still was'nt prepared for it, i should of embezzled some funds ...lol.

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David Jenkins

posted on 4/2/05 at 07:11 PM Reply With Quote
I can only offer the advice I was given when I took voluntary redundancy 10 years or so ago...
...looking for another job is itself a full-time job - you should try to spend at least a half of every day looking, writing letters, phoning, etc. You only need one good answer!
This worked for me and my son when he left university.

Good luck,
David






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gazza285

posted on 4/2/05 at 07:27 PM Reply With Quote
Shouldn't be a problem getting work, as long as you are willing to travel. Construction contractors are looking for all trades as there is a big skills shortage, agency should be able to sort you out short term, then see about jumping ship and either joining a firm full time or sign up to the CIS4 self employment ticket. I did the latter 12 months ago and it was the best thing I have ever done.
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theconrodkid

posted on 4/2/05 at 07:29 PM Reply With Quote
try working for yourself,there are allways people wanting doors,windows etc or get along to building sites and have a word.
self employed is good!ps good luck





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JoelP

posted on 4/2/05 at 07:36 PM Reply With Quote
hey, im sort of a joiner! more kitchen fitting. dead easy, only started 6 months ago, now i run fits and together with a few mates we do jobs for norwood interiors, with a few more contracts coming up.

make sure you are able to branch out. Ring round all local DIY shops (B&Q, and more specialist places) asking if they need fitters, for any sort of installation. My mate sorted all this out for me just by blagging that he was already set up with a few teams of lads on it. not hard to get good contracts.

or consider getting some qualifications - electrics is a good one nowadays, but dont waste time. you can get part P certified in a week or less.





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stephen_gusterson

posted on 4/2/05 at 08:07 PM Reply With Quote
I was made redundant on 25th November. Had to spend the xmas period without a job, not knowing if i was gonna land a really good offer, that was bubbling under, after xmas.

Luckily I did, and as many people have told me, losing your job is often a great opportunity.

Nearly everyone I spoke to had been made redundant at some point, so its not personal.

Hang on for your redundancy, unless you get a really good offer elsewhere.


It doesnt get taxed or NI on it unless it passes 30,000.

so, you should get a week for every complete year from the govt. (but thats capped at 270 quid a week).

But you should also get a week notice for every year you have been with your employer, from them, at the full normal pay rate.

and none of it is taxed.


atb


steve

[Edited on 4/2/05 by stephen_gusterson]






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Peteff

posted on 4/2/05 at 08:18 PM Reply With Quote
You should get your 8 weeks pay in lieu of notice even if you get another job. If you are still working there you should also get paid time off for interviews at other places if you find anywhere. Do you get accrued holiday pay as well? Get to the jobcentre and ask them what your entitlements are.





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stephen_gusterson

posted on 4/2/05 at 08:40 PM Reply With Quote
here is something on redundancy....






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mark_UK

posted on 4/2/05 at 08:48 PM Reply With Quote
Shitty news mate,happened to me too last april,out of the blue after 16 years at the same firm.Was on a serious downer,but just before I was due to leave I got the chance of another job took a deal from the company so I got most of my money and left.Best thing that could have ever happened for me I now work job and done so most weeks I`m finished thursday sometimes weds night good luck!
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phelpsa

posted on 4/2/05 at 09:03 PM Reply With Quote
My dad was made redundant by Vodafone 2 years ago, and had a job straight away at Siemens mobile.

My mum was made redundant by Vodafone in july, decided to wait until the summer holidays was over, and now she can't find one.

So it seems that getting ajob quickly is the way to go.






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stephen_gusterson

posted on 4/2/05 at 09:53 PM Reply With Quote
bit did she actually turn anything down / lose an opportunity in that time....?

The trick is the timing - and if its a good job ya just gotta go for it

atb

steve






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David Jenkins

posted on 4/2/05 at 10:02 PM Reply With Quote
I was also told to "hussle, hussle, hussle" and "be flexible". Pretty much what everyone has said previously.

When I took redundancy from BT they arranged "job finding classes". Went to one of these, didn't expect much, and ended up in a room with around 15 other people in the same boat. 14 out of the 16 were whingeing about how hard life was, but me and the bloke opposite looked at each other and said "Nah!". The woman running the course soon picked up on our attitude and the rest of the course was aimed directly at us! Ended up with a great big folder full of really useful tips on CV writing, interview techniques, how to apply for jobs, and so on. Premium stuff.
Attitude is also a big thing if you decide to go to the job centre and sign on. When I did, I went with a big folder full of details of job applications, responses, what I was going to do next, and so on. The person behind the counter really perked up and made a point of advising me on what to claim, etc. simply because I made it clear that I wanted another job and was working hard to get one.

DJ






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OX

posted on 4/2/05 at 11:35 PM Reply With Quote
sorry to hear about that dude its pants heay,i was made redundant on friday after being there 14 years but started my new job on wednesday training to be a plasterer,i was a motor bike mechanic






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subk2002

posted on 5/2/05 at 12:10 AM Reply With Quote
Thanks for the advice guys i will keep you posted on what happens
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white130d

posted on 5/2/05 at 12:36 AM Reply With Quote
That realy sux

Dude sorry to hear of your redundancy, but with a trade like yours you may not have any trouble. And as someone said, you could always become "self employed.

I am self employed and everybody tells me my boss is a real @sshole

David





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pbura

posted on 5/2/05 at 04:07 AM Reply With Quote
Though it's good to do the usual job-hunting stuff, such as sending out CVs and answering ads, I've found the most fruitful route to be to tell everyone you know that you are looking, and to tell them exactly what kind of work you are willing to do. Casual acquaintances can be the best resources, oddly enough.

And whenever you get turned down somewhere, be sure to ask if they know of anyone else who may be interested.

My wife was a dental hygienist and she had a very unusual job-hunting technique that worked great for her, when she finished school and again when we moved to a new city. She sat down with the yellow pages and called every dentist in town. Both times she had a job within a couple of days. When I started my business, I was so desperate one day that I tried calling local businesses, and got myself a rather large client right away.

Re: self-employment, I reckon it has cost me well over a million dollars to have been self-employed for the past 15 years, but at least job security is not an issue.

[Edited on 5/2/05 by pbura]





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Jasper

posted on 5/2/05 at 02:17 PM Reply With Quote
I was made redundant a few years ago as a video production manager (for the second time), I got four weeks pay. 6 weeks later the rest were paid off on the spot with nothing - so be grateful

I took the plunge and went into my mum's business and now sell teddy bears for a living - can get more different than that.

Can't imagine with a trade like that you would be out of a job for long - at least not down this neck of the woods. Have you thought of getting into doing roof conversions? Very popular down here in bungalow land.

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stephen_gusterson

posted on 5/2/05 at 09:28 PM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by OX
sorry to hear about that dude its pants heay,i was made redundant on friday after being there 14 years but started my new job on wednesday training to be a plasterer,i was a motor bike mechanic




the place i worked at - it was pretty obvious the whole place was going downhill. they made all the production people redundant. one guy could see it coming, and spent a week on a redidential course learning to plaster. he charges about 400 quid a day for plastering work which is about 4x what he got assembling stuff where I worked.

good choice i think ox, and a skill that cant be exported or made in china

atb

steve






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gazza285

posted on 5/2/05 at 10:09 PM Reply With Quote
Bad news is that it is a skill that can be imported. Site I am currently on in Lancaster has a large Polish contingent. While the plasterers are from the UK the Poles are fitting all the kitchens and fitting out the bedrooms (we are building student accommodation). While I have no problem with the fact that they are foreign it is the fact that they are only paid a fiver an hour. How many skilled UK workers would accept that sort of rate? Not this one, that's for sure. All part of the wonderful Europe we now live in, they can work here freely and we can work there freely, but their cost of living is a lot lower than ours so its us that's being screwed. The Germans are experiencing the same effect, only worse as they are much nearer the old Communist East countries. How long before all the construction and engineering industries will be employing cheap labour from abroad?
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stephen_gusterson

posted on 5/2/05 at 10:23 PM Reply With Quote
we started it - did you never watch auf weidersein pet?

the guy i know does smaller jobs for local projects like house extensions....... i would imagine the 'imports' work for barratt and the like....

atb

steve






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