Monkey Man
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| posted on 18/8/05 at 02:04 PM |
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What to do to pinto before install
I'm rapidly approaching the time when I need to think about putting the engine in.
What should I do to give it an overhaul before it goes in?
I've bought a clutch kit for it so will do that. Is it worth changing the air filter / cam / carbs etc.
It's done 165000 miles and is smooth at low revs but starts to sound slightly geriatric above 4000 or so. No knocking or clonking just sounds a
bit strained.
Cheers
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mookaloid
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| posted on 18/8/05 at 02:38 PM |
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If you don't want to spend money on it then don't take it apart - at that sort of mileage you will just find worn bits that need replacing
and the cost will mount up.
If you are not happy with the engine then obviously you need to decide whether to overhaul it or replace it with a known better one.
Overhauling will probably mean a rebore, new pistons, possibly a crank regrind, almost definitely a camshaft and followers, some cylinder head work,
an oil pump, gaskets, timing belt + tensioner etc etc.
Obviously change the filters and timing belt anyway. Carbs are up to you depending on what carbs you have, if they are worn, and if you want more
power.
HTH
Mark
[Edited on 18/8/05 by mookaloid]
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Locost82
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| posted on 18/8/05 at 03:25 PM |
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If you're thinking of doing anything do it NOW, otherwise it'll take twice as long to do it once the engine has heen fitted.
It should be easy to drop the sump and see what the big end and main shells are like.
It might be worth checking the compression to see what the rings and valves are like too.
As mookaloid says, once you start it's hard to stop, and most of the costs are with the labour for the work rather than the cost of parts.
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nick205
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| posted on 18/8/05 at 04:30 PM |
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At 165,000 I would expect that a into had aleady been rebuilt at least once before. Do you know the history of the engine?
Are there any obvious leaks or signs of smoking?
Nick
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Monkey Man
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| posted on 18/8/05 at 05:11 PM |
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There is one very obvious leak. The seal around the oil filler cap half pokes out the top and has obvious oil marks from there all the way down the
side. I can't see any others but they could have been masked by the very obvious one from the oil filler cap.
Don't know the history but there is no smoke. While stripping it I kept finding the occasional new part here and there so it was obviously being
maintained. New leads from the distributor spark plugs seem pretty clean, new fuel filter.
I'm a little short on cash so am leaning towards doing the minimum possible sticking it in and saving up for a newer/better engine in the mean
time.
Does that sound like a better use of cash? I'm reasonably hopeful given it doesn't smoke.
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Northy
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| posted on 18/8/05 at 06:07 PM |
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Yeah, stick it in, thrash the nads out of it, and replace it when its fooooked! 
Graham
Website under construction. Help greatfully received as I don't really know what I'm doing! 
"If a man says something in the woods and there are no women there, is he still wrong?"
Built 2L 8 Valve Vx Powered Avon
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big_wasa
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| posted on 18/8/05 at 07:10 PM |
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Yep I agree thrash it ,kill it then worry about it.
I just wanted a small peak at the insides of my zetec and it ended up costing me a mint.....
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Danozeman
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| posted on 18/8/05 at 08:04 PM |
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Im just checking the shells etc in my zetec to see if anythings knacked. If its gonna cost me alot ill get another engine. The heads already off so
i may aswell have a look. My plan is to do that stick the head back on and put it in then find another lump and do it up ready to go in later on. Im
skint at the min so it works best for me that way.
Depends how much money u have to spend. AS you say your skint so unless its apart id stick it in and see what happens.
Dan
Built the purple peril!! Let the modifications begin!!
http://www.eastangliankitcars.co.uk
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darren(SA)
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| posted on 19/8/05 at 08:50 AM |
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If the heads off, valves out, give the inlet and exhaust a good old polish with a pencil grinder and a flapper disk. the head is cast so theres not
much involved in removing too much metal, all you can really do is polish and smooth some of those nasty seems. While you've got the pencil
grinder out, try matching the inlet flange with the inlet port, you may have to open the port up a bit so that there are no steps interfering the
flow.
cheers
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DarrenW
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| posted on 19/8/05 at 10:22 AM |
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My engine was unknown mileage etc. Believed to be 90K. Head was well worn, now rebuilt and ported as per Des Hammil. Fr32 cam (old one well worn. New
guides and seals. Ive left the bottom end alone as i fancy 2.1 / 2.2 in the future with bike carbs and megajolt.
If your engine is a runner it might be best to get it installed and running then think about rebuild in the future when it defo needs one. Only
concern might be if it is warn to excess now and possibly emmissions fail. You may find a better pinto to replace it with later to avoid rebuild costs
if you are not seeking optimum power at the moment. There will be planty other places to spend the cash for now if you know the lump is reliable.
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