Mansfield
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| posted on 3/3/06 at 08:01 PM |
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Help! What engine have I just bought?
Tomorrow I am picking up an engine & gearbox.
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=4615710085&ssPageName=ADME:B:EOIBSA:UK:11
I bought it assuming it was a proper 1.6 CVH, thinking it would be a good, or should I say cheap, start point. Certainly Locost, although I will give
the guy a generous tip to help me load it into the back of my poor old car.
Reading through my old Parkers guides, it seems it could be a 1597cc CFI engine, 80hp, fuel injected.
I dont mind a lack of power as it was only intended to build around before a more costly upgrade, but I dont want to forking out for lots of extras
just make it run.
Before you say BEC/Zetec/XE would be a better bet, my build must remain low cost, as I am a) skint and b) have a very poor record of finishing
anything I start.
So then, back to the original subject, what have I just bought and how much to make it run? Or should I say, how little?
Thanks, David.
P.S. If you sold it to me, I am definately picking up tomorrow, and am well happy with price including generous tip.
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BKLOCO
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| posted on 3/3/06 at 08:07 PM |
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Looks like a standard 1.6 CVH carb engine to me.
Better than the 1.8
Responds well to tuning and it should be more or less plug and play.
Get as many ancilliaries as he'll let you have.
Good luck.
Experience is what you get when you don't get what you want!!! 
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Dave Ashurst
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| posted on 3/3/06 at 08:10 PM |
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This http://www.pumaracing.co.uk/cvh.htm should be of some help.
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Mansfield
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| posted on 3/3/06 at 08:12 PM |
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It looked like that to me, but I have a horrible feeling its injected.
Seems a good guy and will give me everything he's not using.
Is it a standard Sierra fitment?
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mars0505
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| posted on 3/3/06 at 08:14 PM |
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I thougt sierra's only had 1.8 CVH and 1.6 pinto's in it. But maybe english types where different???
Mars.
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Mansfield
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| posted on 3/3/06 at 08:14 PM |
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I am 2 posts late BKLOCO.
Feeling happier.
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Mansfield
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| posted on 3/3/06 at 08:15 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by mars0505
I thougt sierra's only had 1.8 CVH and 1.6 pinto's in it. But maybe english types where different???
Mars.
I thought that also and wondered if it aws a mongrel.
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Peteff
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| posted on 3/3/06 at 08:16 PM |
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It's a later 1800cvh if it's the original Sierra engine. You'll need the ignition loom to get it running. It looks like it has the
Pierburg carb and it will be on a type 9 box according to the shift pattern. It's not a 1600 as the distributor isn't on the end of the
cambox.
yours, Pete
I went into the RSPCA office the other day. It was so small you could hardly swing a cat in there.
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theconrodkid
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| posted on 3/3/06 at 08:25 PM |
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tis a 1600cfi lump
who cares who wins
pass the pork pies
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Mark Allanson
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| posted on 3/3/06 at 08:57 PM |
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Check with jolson, but I thing you have struck gold!
This is the block that you can fit the RS turbo head to without any mods, downside is that it was originally fitted with a cat so the wiring may be a
bit of a fiddle
If you can keep you head, whilst all others around you are losing theirs, you are not fully aware of the situation
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zilspeed
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| posted on 3/3/06 at 09:15 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by Mansfield
Before you say BEC/Zetec/XE would be a better bet, my build must remain low cost, as I am a) skint and b) have a very poor record of finishing
anything I start.
Ok - soeone has to do this, so it might as well be me.
Zetec needn't cost a fortune you know.
Zil's engine
Zil's carbs
I'll shut up now
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Mansfield
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| posted on 3/3/06 at 09:48 PM |
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Sorry for the lack of replies, I was having my tea.
From the replies, I think it is a 1600 CVH. And probably a CFI - whatever the hell that is.
I am interested in the 'hit gold' line, what/who is a jolson?
Would I junk the CFI, and run with a carb? Assuming the igntion side of things is OK.
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Mark Allanson
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| posted on 3/3/06 at 10:01 PM |
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Jolson is a member here, he did a lot of research on fitting an XR3i engine and I think he sorted it that the 1.6 cvh CFI was the same block as the RS
turbo
If you can keep you head, whilst all others around you are losing theirs, you are not fully aware of the situation
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donut
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| posted on 3/3/06 at 10:09 PM |
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Cheap as chips...what a bargain!
Andy
When I die, I want to go peacefully like my Grandfather did, in his sleep -- not screaming, like the passengers in his car.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/andywest1/
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BKLOCO
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| posted on 3/3/06 at 10:12 PM |
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If it were me I'd junk the CFI run on carbs for induction and Megajolt with the EDIS unit for ignition.
This may sound like garbage to you at the moment but don't worry. You will get loads of help on here to sort it out.
Just be happy that you have got a good power plant at a good price and sort out the rest as you go.
Experience is what you get when you don't get what you want!!!
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Mansfield
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| posted on 3/3/06 at 10:47 PM |
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Thanks for all your advice, I feel quite positive about the engine now.
On the ignition side, and assuming I can get it, do I just need the EIDS and the engine loom?
Headwise, am I looking out for a bargain XR3i or RS Turbo head to run carbs on?
I did get this for a good price, but as I wrote earlier, I have offered some extra as £21 for all that seemed really mean. Sucker or what? The
gearbox alone is worth that though.
One last thing, am I right in thinking this a reasonbly light engine?
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gazza285
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| posted on 4/3/06 at 09:59 AM |
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If you want to do it cheap and easy, just get an earlier head with the dizzy on the end to look after the ignition, and more than likely it will come
with a carb on it as well. This gives you a starting point for not much money, then later you could uprate the cam, put a bigger carb or carbs on etc
when you have the money.
DO NOT PUT ON KNOB OR BOLLOCKS!
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britishtrident
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| posted on 4/3/06 at 10:58 AM |
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I've got a Xr3i head going spare but its got the cut outs on the inlet ports for the injectors and would need fiddled to work with a carb
manifold -- I haven't got the cam, followers or rockers got the dizzie but was planning on keeping the dizzy as a spare.
Also got a spare twin 40DCOE weber inlet
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cornishrob
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| posted on 4/3/06 at 08:17 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by Mark Allanson
This is the block that you can fit the RS turbo head to without any mods, downside is that it was originally fitted with a cat so the wiring may be a
bit of a fiddle
I was thinking exactly the same thing
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