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cerbera

posted on 7/4/06 at 03:25 PM Reply With Quote
Do I need longer studs?

Ive got meself some new wheels and have had to put 5mm spacers on the back to clear the springs/shocks. After bolting them up the studs are now underflush of the nuts by about 3mm. Is this OK? or as the title says, do I need longer studs.

If it is OK, out of curiosity, whats the maximum amount of intrusion?

Cheers

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Humbug

posted on 7/4/06 at 03:31 PM Reply With Quote
At my SVA I had to take the wheel centres off to show that the wheel nuts were on enough... I assume that your car is already SVAd, but for peace of mind I would like the studs to be "underflush" at all. I think the guide for SVA is 2-3 threads showing
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Howlor

posted on 7/4/06 at 03:31 PM Reply With Quote
Generally it is good to have a bit stuck out but some cars come with closed in nuts so as long as you have a good portion of thread contact then it will be fine.
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Dave J

posted on 7/4/06 at 03:40 PM Reply With Quote
If for example your stud thread is 12mm dia then the general rule is that you you must have a minimum of 12mm length for fixing.
12mm or more ok, anything less definately not.

If you need to change the studs it's an easy job. You just hammer the old ones out (taking care to pack the hub flange so as not to shock damage the bearing) then pull the new studs through with an old wheel nut and a tube which should be faced squarely which not only keeps the stud true to the flange but also means you dont need to screw the nut so far when pulling the new studs through.
It is preferable the tube bore be as near to the stud o/d as possible.
I used a spare crush tube from my wishbone bushes.

Hope this helps.


Dave

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oliwb

posted on 7/4/06 at 03:45 PM Reply With Quote
Think the actual SVA requirement is for their to be 5-6 complete 360 degree turns of the wheel nut.....But as others say not too big a job anyway.....Oli.





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nitram38

posted on 7/4/06 at 04:07 PM Reply With Quote
If you use the hubs and wheel nuts off a donor, then surely they must be correct unless you have used the wrong wheels?
And some dome nuts don't even show any threads

[Edited on 7/4/2006 by nitram38]






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highspeeddirt

posted on 7/4/06 at 04:17 PM Reply With Quote
Ni Nick,

The rears will be fine.

If you are still using the wheel nuts that I used then you have 25mm of thread in the nut. So with 3mm 'underflush' you have 22mm in contact which is more than is required by the MSA regs which IIRC state 1.5 times the diameter of the stud, 12mm, so you could get away with 18mm.


Steve

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cerbera

posted on 7/4/06 at 05:04 PM Reply With Quote
Cheers Steve

Thats what I thought, but just looks a little wrong with no threads coming through the nut.


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trialsman

posted on 7/4/06 at 08:21 PM Reply With Quote
I have the same problem with my escort mk2 Locost. I can see how to get the studs out of the front disks but how do you get them out of the rear drums without pulling the axel????Russ
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