Craig81
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| posted on 21/5/06 at 05:59 PM |
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chav car trouble!!!
hi all,
my girl friends 1.6 saxo has started to become a right pain in the a**e. The car has developed a misfire which varies from a very slight miss on hard
acceleration to 'juddering' badly. To make things worst, the problems intermittent. The citro garage has looked at it and put it down to a
faultly oxygen sensor which i have now changed but it has made no difference. Do any of you guys know of any common citron faults ???
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BKLOCO
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| posted on 21/5/06 at 06:05 PM |
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The first thing I'd look at is coil packs.
Could also be TPS, MAP sensor and any one of 101 other things but I'd definately look to coil packs first.
Experience is what you get when you don't get what you want!!! 
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greggors84
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| posted on 21/5/06 at 06:08 PM |
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Sounds like the idle control valve, should be somewhere near the butterfly on the throttle body.
Take it off by unscrewing the 2 torx bolts, then clean it with carb cleaner, will prob have lots of deposits on it. Then put back in, will prob have
to reset if the car wont idle afterwards. To do this turn ignition on to the 'on' position (one before start) leave for 10 secs then turn
off, then back on.
Off the top of my head thats how you do it, if you have problems resetting the ICV let me know, i may have missed something out. You will know if it
needs resetting as the car will rev fine but as soon as you leave it to idle the engine will die.
90% sure that will fix the problem.
EDIT: The ICV valve will probs be a little Magnetti Marelli sensor with a yellow plug on it, if you still cant find it i can get a pic of its
location.
[Edited on 21/5/2006 by greggors84]
Chris
The Magnificent 7!
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stevebubs
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| posted on 21/5/06 at 06:58 PM |
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On VW Golfs, this is normally the sign of bad ignition leads....
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ed_crouch
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| posted on 21/5/06 at 07:44 PM |
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V sorry not to be helpful, but French cars just do things like that.
Get rid of it and get her a Polo/Golf GTI.
Much better car.
Ed.
I-iii-iii-iii-ts ME!
Hurrah.
www.wings-and-wheels.net
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froggy
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| posted on 21/5/06 at 08:21 PM |
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go for coil packs first ive had a few 106,saxos that have had "diagnostic" work done by the main agent and didnt find it ,if its the big
coil pack on yours then its a well known fault. lots of independants have a spare one to try ,i keep one as a mule and also the single ones that most
petrol renaults use now too
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Krismc
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| posted on 21/5/06 at 08:29 PM |
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FRENCH CARS, coil packs go in bad rain and damp humid weather
Take them out and leave in house over night and put them back in should be fine!
Built, Ivaed, Drove and now Sold - 2011 MNR VORTX RT+ 2000cc Zetec on R1 Throttle boddies.
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UncleFista
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| posted on 21/5/06 at 08:36 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by ed_crouch
V sorry not to be helpful, but French cars just do things like that.
Get rid of it and get her a Polo/Golf GTI.
Much better car.
Ed.
In your opinion....
In mine VWs are heavy, expensive and more a tribute to clever marketing than mechanical excellance and the "modern" ones are no better
built than any mainstream manufacturers offerings
All IMHO of course
Tony Bond / UncleFista
Love is like a snowmobile, speeding across the frozen tundra.
Which suddenly flips, pinning you underneath.
At night the ice-weasels come...
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ed_crouch
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| posted on 21/5/06 at 09:40 PM |
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IMHO, of course!
AS for german cars being no better built than others, IMHHHHHHHO, Bullsh*t!!
IMHO thats incorrect...
My experience is based on the cars my family have owned or driven in about the last ten years (my family being my brother, dad and myself):
Vauxhall Omega 2.2 auto
Vauxhall Nova 1.0 (..............)
BMW E28 M5 (*2)
BMW E34 M5
BMW E34 ALPINA B10 Bi-turbo
BMW E39 M5
BMW E46 323i
BMW E30 M3
Porsche 928 S4
Audi A4 TDI
Audi 100 2.3 Quattro
VW Polo (1999)
Ford Fiesta (1993)
Vw Golf GTI Mk2
BMW 2002tii (3 of them!!)
Mercedes C220 CDI
Ford Mustang 4.0 (2006)
Chevy Malibu
Chevy HHR
PT Cruiser (YUKKKKKK)
Pontiac G6
I have personally either owned, driven, been driven in or shed blood on all of the above cars, and the offerings from Ford and GM arent a patch on the
German ones.
All IMHO!!
I understand that opinions are purely subjective, but I have to fly the german flag on this one!!
All the best,
Ed. ***Awaits flaming***
[Edited on 21/5/06 by ed_crouch]
Sorry, I keep remembering more!
[Edited on 21/5/06 by ed_crouch]
I-iii-iii-iii-ts ME!
Hurrah.
www.wings-and-wheels.net
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Craig81
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| posted on 22/5/06 at 06:09 AM |
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thanks for all the replys. I think ill change the coil packs 2day, looks like they might not be all that cheap as the two coils and ht leads are one
intergrated unit. Thinking about it, when it played up yesterday, it was in really wet conditions. Bless the french!!!
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greggors84
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| posted on 22/5/06 at 12:19 PM |
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Try cleaning the ICV valve before you change the coil packs, it wont cost you anything, and may just be the problem.
If the garage thought it was a dodgy oxygen sensor, it maybe the ICV valve was playing up causing dodgy readings from the oxygen sensor.
Chris
The Magnificent 7!
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rusty nuts
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| posted on 22/5/06 at 12:39 PM |
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Check out the price from Euro car parts before you buy from a Citroen dealer , could save you a bob or two.
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tractorboy
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| posted on 22/5/06 at 12:55 PM |
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hello mate , if the weather ever dries up and you get out from under the bonnet of the chav mobile give me a shout and we can go out for a well
deserved blast.cheers scott
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Gav
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| posted on 22/5/06 at 02:39 PM |
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Have you first checked the spark plugs?
My cupra hada similar problem under full throttle and new plugs solved the problem.
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