mad dad
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| posted on 23/10/06 at 05:58 PM |
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Sticking on front cycle wings - advice please
This may have been covered before but about to stick on some new carbon fibre cycle wings and wondered if there are any tips on best way to make sure
they stay on. I don't really want to have to screw them on as well so will be speaking to a friend of mine who works at a windscreen place as i
believe they have the sticky stuff (not to technical i hope!!) to stick them on with?? is it ok just to wire brush brackets clean, should the wings be
clamped or just left for a day or two, whats best stuff to clean underneath of new wings with etc etc Thanks
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scotty g
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| posted on 23/10/06 at 06:02 PM |
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Serious Stuff from Evostick is bally great, will stick just about anything to anything. you will find it in B&Q.
Darren at GTS told me about it, they use it all the time.
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Mr G
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| posted on 23/10/06 at 06:04 PM |
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Polyurethane adhesive (Sikaflex for example)
Like $hite to a blanked and remains flexible. The rougher the 2 contact surfaces the better so an abrasive rough up rather than just a clean would be
ideal.
I would'nt clamp them just make sure they are well supported so they can't move while going off in the position you want them 
Cheers
G
Normal is getting dressed in clothes that you buy for work and driving through traffic in a
car that you are still paying for - in order to get to the job you need to pay for the clothes
and the car, and the house you leave vacant all day so you can afford to live in it.
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ReMan
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| posted on 23/10/06 at 06:30 PM |
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Just PU for me, so far soo good at max revs in top gear!
Fingers crossed....................
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davrus
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| posted on 23/10/06 at 06:52 PM |
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interesting , so you dont have to bolt them on then?
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MkIndy7
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| posted on 23/10/06 at 06:58 PM |
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The peperation for PU adhesive must be important... or not putting too thick of a layer on.
The brackets for the bumper on the tin-top were alittle worn and wouldn't hold it in the right place while it was all fresh n clean I PU'd
it on and held it overnight with G clamps in the right place.
Went through a HEUGE puddle this weekend and it pulled the PU loose, it looked like it pulled the PU apart from PU as there's still some stuck
to both sides!
Anybody else experienced that happening, presumably cos there's too much on?
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JUD
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| posted on 23/10/06 at 07:03 PM |
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Tiger Seal - another PU solution.
Did manage to pop one front support after a little "offroading" at a trackday. Simple job to rebond.
I did notice one of the MKs at Brands had bonded wings, but they had also bolted the inside edge. Neat and I guess provides a fail safe to low flying
wings!
Martin
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MK Indy Blade
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NS Dev
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| posted on 24/10/06 at 07:15 AM |
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windscreen adhesive will do the job just fine, rest of the advice spot on.
Retro RWD is the way forward...........automotive fabrication, car restoration, sheetmetal work, engine conversion
retro car restoration and tuning
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02GF74
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| posted on 24/10/06 at 07:19 AM |
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I was gonna suggest using glass fibre mat & resin - any reason why that can't be used?
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NS Dev
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| posted on 24/10/06 at 07:41 AM |
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none at all, but put a good amount of mat round it as resin cracks quite easily
Retro RWD is the way forward...........automotive fabrication, car restoration, sheetmetal work, engine conversion
retro car restoration and tuning
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mad dad
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| posted on 24/10/06 at 07:53 AM |
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I think the windscreen adhesive will be easier than the fibreglass route and i can (hopefully) lay them on and position them before applying any
pressure to get them to stick?? sound ok?? whats the betting first outing and they fly off!!! how long do you think they should be left for before
driving the car....Thanks everyone
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NS Dev
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| posted on 24/10/06 at 07:55 AM |
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they'll stick pretty fast to winscreen adhesive, but you will have a few moments to position them.
I'd leave them a day before driving
Retro RWD is the way forward...........automotive fabrication, car restoration, sheetmetal work, engine conversion
retro car restoration and tuning
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DarrenW
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| posted on 24/10/06 at 08:11 AM |
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I used Wurth bond and seal - fantastic stuff.
Brackets were cleaned up very well and acetone wiped over to ensure no oily residue. Cycle wings also roughened up and wiped over. Good thick layer on
top of stay, arch placed on top. Masking tape used to hold arch in place. No need to clamp, although if not taped down they can move as PU takes a
while to grab. Once cured more applied underneath, this also helps to protect any bare steel on the stays. Again laeve to cure and they wont come off
unless smashed off.
Just remember to ensure they are stuck in correct position ref wheel to pass SVA - you dont get a second chance.
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mad dad
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| posted on 24/10/06 at 08:47 AM |
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cars already sva'd and out and about so i don't suppose this is an issue?? mot's don't worry about them do they?? someone said
move them back round a bit to save stones on rear arches but i would rather seem them central when i sit in the car etc thanks for all the help and
suggestions....
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greggors84
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| posted on 24/10/06 at 11:40 AM |
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I use resin and fiberglass on my carbon ones and they have seemed to hold well. There is a bit of flex from the carbon and fiberglass so it takes
vibrations quite well.
Drilled holes in the top of the brackets so that the resin could key in the brackets instead of just going round them, used lots of matting though to
keep them as flexible as possible.
Time will tell i guess though, the car hasnt been on the road long.
Chris
The Magnificent 7!
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Ian Pearson
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| posted on 24/10/06 at 11:51 AM |
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I used PU, let it set and then overlayed fibreglass and resin on top of that. Haven't been on the road yet, but it seems strong.
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mad dad
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| posted on 24/10/06 at 01:37 PM |
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been down to local windscreen replacement firm and got 2 tubes of windscreen adhesive for a drinK(£5.00)seems a good deal
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mad dad
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| posted on 25/10/06 at 07:07 AM |
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put em on last night difficult keeping the edge of the wing lined up with the tyre on both sides (for me anyway!!) think they look ok and they feel
secure this morning but won't use the car till the weekend so hopefully job done - first outing should be interesting, will be watching for the
slightest lift from them.....
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02GF74
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| posted on 25/10/06 at 03:48 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by Ian Pearson
I used PU, let it set and then overlayed fibreglass and resin on top of that. Haven't been on the road yet, but it seems strong.
that was gonna be my next post on this - belt and braces approach.
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mad dad
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| posted on 29/10/06 at 09:33 PM |
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been out several times now and wings are fine no movement so thumbs up for windscreen adhesive........
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