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JackNco

posted on 20/3/07 at 12:27 AM Reply With Quote
Piano wire needed, needs to be strong and thin

Hey all,

Been a while since i was on here as ive had to put my plans to build a seven on hold for a while. things taking up funds like moving out and holidays.

Buy i have a problem and it seems like the kind of thing you guys might be able to help with.

Basically i need to get hold of some very strong wire, like piano wire.
1.4 - 1.6mm thick. as strong as possible. anything that really wont bend easily. although it will have to be shaped at 90° angles.

Any ideas on specific metals or alloys i should be looking for or places i can look to buy this stuff.

Im after small is quantities as it will only be used in 6-8inch pieces.

All the best andi look forward to reading any replies.

John





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gy351100

posted on 20/3/07 at 12:33 AM Reply With Quote
piano wire

try model engineer suplliers
most will be able to supply

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JackNco

posted on 20/3/07 at 12:36 AM Reply With Quote
They do but its not as strong as im after unfortunately. or in the places ive tried.





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grahamgg

posted on 20/3/07 at 12:52 AM Reply With Quote
what about steel rod the type you get out of B+Q ,im'e not sure you get it that thin ..and i think they also do it in brass ,not sure brass will be srong enough,






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JackNco

posted on 20/3/07 at 12:59 AM Reply With Quote
The closest thing BnQ do is the bare metal garden wire. its close, but not quite strong enough.

Brass woudl be no where near strong enough





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jollygreengiant

posted on 20/3/07 at 04:17 AM Reply With Quote
A proper aeromodeling shop would have the closest to what you are after. Hardened steel wire, this stuff takes the cutting edge of off pliers and kill hacksaw teeth. ideally cut with a mini disc cutter. It has limited flexibility because it is/was used to make fixed undercarriage so it must also stay in the shape it is bent so that the gear does not collapse on landing.





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nitram38

posted on 20/3/07 at 05:27 AM Reply With Quote
Try anyone who sells suspended ceilings.
B & Q sell this.
They sell it on a roll or in 1m straight lengths. The straight stuff is normally the strongest.

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Benzine

posted on 20/3/07 at 08:35 AM Reply With Quote
There's a big farmers supply shop near me, they sell all kinds of wire.
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britishtrident

posted on 20/3/07 at 08:39 AM Reply With Quote
You already know what to look for Piano or "Music" wire --- really pre-stretched spring steel.

For a 90 degree bend you may have to hot bend.

http://www.ema-models.co.uk/shop/catpages/page-LGD.html#LGD4

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welderman

posted on 20/3/07 at 09:00 AM Reply With Quote
how about stainless mig wire, got loads of the stuff, 1mm thick if you need some.





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jimgiblett

posted on 20/3/07 at 09:32 AM Reply With Quote
Sounds strange but for piano wire why not visit a piano shop.

Thats where I got the wire to make my anti rattle pad retainers.

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posted on 20/3/07 at 09:51 AM Reply With Quote
Have you tried these guys?
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James

posted on 20/3/07 at 10:26 AM Reply With Quote
Would Mig welding wire be up to the job?

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Jame





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mistergrumpy

posted on 20/3/07 at 10:27 AM Reply With Quote
You after making lock picking tools with it by any chance Jack?






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NS Dev

posted on 20/3/07 at 10:35 AM Reply With Quote
I can get any amount of ultra high tensile steel 0.25 and 0.4mm wire......................





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DannyC

posted on 20/3/07 at 01:26 PM Reply With Quote
Have you considered bicycle spokes. These come in various diameters and materials.

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Alan B

posted on 20/3/07 at 01:37 PM Reply With Quote
I'd be surprised if there is much that is readily available that exceeds piano wire in tensile strength.....IE if piano wire won't work you could be SOL
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JackNco

posted on 20/3/07 at 04:00 PM Reply With Quote
Wow cheers for a ll the replies. ive got some links to check out now and some research to do. which will keep me busy. cheers for all the help.

quote:
Originally posted by mistergrumpy
You after making lock picking tools with it by any chance Jack?


I am indeed. if they think im spending £350.00 on a tool an £18.00 per piece of wire they are very much mistaken.

Especially when i can do the job with bits of wire.





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JackNco

posted on 20/3/07 at 04:28 PM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by James
Would Mig welding wire be up to the job?

Cheers,
Jame


I doubt it very much. thanks anyway





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