Julian B
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| posted on 16/4/07 at 07:37 PM |
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What next
Hi all
Im trying to decide what to do next
So far i have on a bench a 3.5 rv8 in bits.......
2of....... T3 60 Garret turbos , so i hope to get 350 bhp from th Rv8...... and
a UN1 gearbox - transaxle
I want to build a true 60's--- style race car with a 2000;s twist, hence the twin turbos
Im happy to build a space frame, so that excludes a ford gt - Gt40
The question is...What do i build.
PS I have fallen in love with the Lola T70, But its hard to get info on this.
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Humbug
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| posted on 16/4/07 at 07:48 PM |
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Fred W B has that type of car - not sure what exactly
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kb58
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| posted on 16/4/07 at 08:38 PM |
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There's an old (1960s) Jaguar factory race car... they only made a couple of them, but it was drop-dead gorgous. See if you can find out
anything about that one. It was a mid-engine V12, but a twin-turbo V8 would substitute admirably!
Mid-engine Locost - http://www.midlana.com
And the book - http://www.lulu.com/shop/kurt-bilinski/midlana/paperback/product-21330662.html
Kimini - a tube-frame, carbon shell, Honda Prelude VTEC mid-engine Mini: http://www.kimini.com
And its book -
http://www.lulu.com/shop/kurt-bilinski/kimini-how-to-design-and-build-a-mid-engine-sports-car-from-scratch/paperback/product-4858803.html
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Hammerhead
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| posted on 16/4/07 at 08:47 PM |
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lola are making the t70 again so i'm told........ask them for a brochure 
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TheGecko
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| posted on 16/4/07 at 10:22 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by kb58
There's an old (1960s) Jaguar factory race car... they only made a couple of them, but it was drop-dead gorgous. See if you can find out
anything about that one. It was a mid-engine V12, but a twin-turbo V8 would substitute admirably!
That would be the XJ-13 - definitely only a
one off. It was almost destroyed after a crash during filming for the V12 E-type release. Later restored, it is now still displayed here and there.
Here it is at Pebble Beach in 2002.
There's been a variety of kits made over the years, ranging from fibreglass shells over space frames to one near perfect replica with a riveted
alloy monocoque chassis and panels just like the original. Not sure how much that one cost!
Agreed that it's probably the best of the 1960's sports racers - an almost pure distillation of all the classic Jaguar styling cues. It
would also be bloody hard to make a copy of because of all those lovely curves 
Still, if someone wants to publish "Build Your Own XJ-13 Replica for as little as $35,000" - I'll buy a copy of the book
Dominic
[Edited on 16/4/2007 by TheGecko]
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iank
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| posted on 16/4/07 at 11:04 PM |
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Not sure how much that one cost!
Think this:
http://www.pistonheads.com/doc.asp?c=99&i=6298
might be the one you remember (though it's a spaceframe under the ally panels)
About £80,000 for that 
[Edited on 16/4/07 by iank]
--
Never argue with an idiot. They drag you down to their level, then beat you with experience.
Anonymous
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Doug68
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| posted on 17/4/07 at 06:52 AM |
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Look at Fred W B's photo archive he's got the goods on the T70:
http://www.locostbuilders.co.uk/photos.php?action=gal&user=Fred%20W%20B
If you don't want a roof then the big CAN-AM cars from the late 60's (just about all of them) look great.
If you're going to go to the effort of building the thing though and aren't desperate to make a copy of something existing, just a little
bit more effort will get you an original. My design (still not properly finished) is a mish mash of at least 6 different cars I've swiped bits
from for example.
If you go this way you don't have to put up with people telling you what bits you did 'wrong' etc.
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Fred W B
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| posted on 17/4/07 at 11:07 AM |
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Hi Julian
Yes, I am scratchbuilding a car inspired by the lola T70 Spyder.
Search for "CANAMSA" on here to see various threads.
Lotta Lola info here
Cheers
Fred W B
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Julian B
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| posted on 17/4/07 at 06:38 PM |
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Hi Fred and thanks all.
Well thats me convinced then, not that it would take much, A t70 its going to be then.
What was the process behind the chassis design. Have you somthing to copy from or some drawings, Or is it all your own?
I will be off to the UK national kit car show soon, so i will take my camera with me. Hopefully the GD boys could provide me with some info...
Do you think they might get a bit "funny" if i take a tape measure and a protractor as well?
Here goes
Cheers
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Doug68
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| posted on 17/4/07 at 11:46 PM |
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If I were a professional outfit and you went to measure my car I'd tell you to 'go away and multiply'
[Edited on 18/4/07 by Doug68]
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Julian B
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 posted on 18/4/07 at 06:36 AM |
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you have a point
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Fred W B
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| posted on 18/4/07 at 08:34 AM |
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I designed the chassis myself from first principles, I.E.
Study the gospel according to Staniforth (Race and rally car source book) and everything else you can find.
Look at lots of cars.
Mock up main parts on build table.
Sort ergonomics
Design suspension.
design chassis
I was a long way down the road before I decided on a Lola look body.
Hint - the wheelbase is 2400 or 2413 mm, depending where you look
cheers
Fred W B
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FUORISERIE
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| posted on 18/4/07 at 08:08 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by Julian B
Hi all
Im trying to decide what to do next
So far i have on a bench a 3.5 rv8 in bits.......
2of....... T3 60 Garret turbos , so i hope to get 350 bhp from th Rv8...... and
a UN1 gearbox - transaxle
I want to build a true 60's--- style race car with a 2000;s twist, hence the twin turbos
Im happy to build a space frame, so that excludes a ford gt - Gt40
The question is...What do i build.
PS I have fallen in love with the Lola T70, But its hard to get info on this.
Here you go, a new design i posted on the GT40 forum, for a modern retro design gt40 barchetta
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DIY Si
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| posted on 18/4/07 at 08:19 PM |
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Looks good that, like a grown up Elise!
“Let your plans be dark and as impenetratable as night, and when you move, fall like a thunderbolt.”
Sun Tzu, The Art of War
My new blog: http://spritecave.blogspot.co.uk/
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FUORISERIE
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| posted on 20/4/07 at 12:42 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by DIY Si
Looks good that, like a grown up Elise!
Thanks.
And you're right , the Elise and Gt40 were my influences...
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FUORISERIE
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| posted on 20/4/07 at 12:44 PM |
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another sketch
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DIY Si
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| posted on 20/4/07 at 02:10 PM |
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That does look very nice. Only bit I'm not too sure on is the mirrors, did you sturggle to find an idea that flowed like the rest? I do
appreciate that mirrors are probably one of the hardest external bits to add on without lookin silly.
“Let your plans be dark and as impenetratable as night, and when you move, fall like a thunderbolt.”
Sun Tzu, The Art of War
My new blog: http://spritecave.blogspot.co.uk/
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