akumabito
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 posted on 30/4/07 at 02:35 PM |
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AAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRGGHHHHHH!!!!
Hmm, alright, I just discovered that building a Locost, or any other type of kitcar is out of the question for me.
All newly-registered cars that are not officially manufactured (meaning by a recognized manufacturer in an approved factory, etc., etc., etc...) is
taxed an 80% duty over its appraised value. Then that total amount is taxed an excise tax of 35%.. THEN there's a 10% interior tax over the
subtotal, followed by a 7% VAT. In essence, the total taxes amount to a little over 213% over the appraised value of the vehicle, which, since a
kitcar is a non-standard car, is entirely up to the local officials.. they can make up pretty much whatever number they feel like, and I'd have
to pay 200+ per cent taxes over that amount.
I'm bummed. Even if I could "build my own sportscar for 250 quid", it would probably get valued at 10,000 quid, just because they
can, which mean I'd have to pay over 20k in taxes just to get it on the road...
This sucks.
Oh well.. on a positive note, I'm probably going to look for a nice aircooled VW, and throw some cash at it to make it nice and shiny. 
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MOz
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 posted on 30/4/07 at 02:38 PM |
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Erm.............. move???
MOz
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DavidM
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| posted on 30/4/07 at 02:39 PM |
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We're bummed for you too.
Move to the UK. We can put anything on the road!
David
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Ivan
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| posted on 30/4/07 at 02:41 PM |
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It looks like they realy realy don't want you to build youre own car. 
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mangogrooveworkshop
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| posted on 30/4/07 at 02:44 PM |
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PHUKET
Looks like a really nice place to live
[Edited on 30-4-07 by mangogrooveworkshop]
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James
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| posted on 30/4/07 at 02:46 PM |
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I did a quick Google.
I expect you've seen this:
http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/lofiversion/index.php/t62421.html
I be surprised if you could do nothing at all.
What about registering yourself as a manufacturer?
And if still desperate:
Maybe my impression of Thailand wrong.... but can't you just bribe whoever signs the relevent bits of paper?
Cheers,
James
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"The fight is won or lost far away from witnesses, behind the lines, in the gym and out there on the road, long before I dance under those lights."
- Muhammad Ali
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Simon
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| posted on 30/4/07 at 02:47 PM |
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Or get another government
ATB
Simon
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Humbug
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| posted on 30/4/07 at 02:56 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by Simon
Or get another government
ATB
Simon
They tried that last year, I think!
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akumabito
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| posted on 30/4/07 at 03:14 PM |
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stupid laws make no sense... I've seen Land Rovers with Isuzu engines, BMW's with Toyota engines, ridiculously modified off-road vehicles
and minibuses... I *know* you can get away with pretty much everything... as long as the vehicle is registered in the country.
Oh well, beetles can be fun too...
Gonna find a nice clean one to drive around for a while, then modify it to make the wife and baby happy..
After that, I'll probably look around for an older Suzuki Samurai. Think I'll join the 'ridiculously modified' club with that
one..
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MOz
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| posted on 30/4/07 at 03:21 PM |
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TVR V8's fit nicely into SWB Land Rover Defenders.........
Food for thought!
MOz
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coozer
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| posted on 30/4/07 at 03:27 PM |
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AAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRGGHHHHHH!!!!
Thats a positive shout to being bummed.
1972 V8 Jago
1980 Z750
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James
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| posted on 30/4/07 at 03:35 PM |
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What about you find the local government 'valuer' and see what price he puts on a Seven. Might not be too bad.
Then the 200% doesn't look too bad.
If there's a guy running round in a Caterham there, I can't believe he's had it valued at £30,000!
Good luck,
James
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"The fight is won or lost far away from witnesses, behind the lines, in the gym and out there on the road, long before I dance under those lights."
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MattCraneCustoms
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| posted on 30/4/07 at 03:49 PM |
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I'd like to say move to the UK, but I see your located in Koh Samui, what I'd regard to be one hell of a nice place. I'll swap
countries with you if you want . . .
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McLannahan
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| posted on 30/4/07 at 05:13 PM |
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What about importing a finished one? Would the same rules apply?
You could then take it apart and add/change things?
Bet there's a loophole that doesn't allow it though....
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worX
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| posted on 30/4/07 at 06:41 PM |
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would the same rule apply for a build it yourself Caterham or Westfield - you can always lie when you've finished it and say you bought it from
the Manufacturers Factory???
Steve
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McLannahan
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| posted on 30/4/07 at 07:03 PM |
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Worx - I saw a signature footer like that once!
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akumabito
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| posted on 30/4/07 at 07:07 PM |
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Yeah, same restrictions apply. Apparently, it's a bit of protectionism to guard the local market from being swamped with cheap cars from
Malaysia, Myanmar, Laos, etc.
It applies to all vehicles built outside the country, as well as vehicles built in Thailand by non-approved companies.
So even a factory-built Westfield or Caterham would be taxed that badly. I can't even afford a factory-built car, so imagine what the 200% tax
would do..
Hmmm... I should check out one of the Ferrari dealerships in Bangkok for shits 'n giggles, see hwat those costs with all the ridiculous taxing..
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worX
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| posted on 1/5/07 at 12:42 PM |
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McLannahan - Don't believe you!!!
quote:
Originally posted by McLannahan
Worx - I saw a signature footer like that once!
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iank
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| posted on 1/5/07 at 12:57 PM |
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Another tack to consider - which will require some rigorous reading of the regulations.
Take one used MX-5 assuming they cost sane money. Or maybe some other rwd donor.
Do some radical conversion work (which you imply is common and legal) which involves taking off all the panels and replacing with a steel structure
covered in aluminium with maybe some GRP bits for good measure...
Since it's "just" a modified MX-5 it's already registered and the tax already paid. There is even a book with full plans
based on the MX-5 as a donor.
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Never argue with an idiot. They drag you down to their level, then beat you with experience.
Anonymous
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Alez
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| posted on 2/5/07 at 06:08 PM |
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As Iank says, use a road legal car as your donor and stamp its chassis number on your Locost chassis. That's what I would do if I was in your
situation, and I don't think I'd bother reading any regulations.
BTW law is changing quickly here in Spain as well, they are trying to prevent the chinese to sell cars here and so law is getting really hairy
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iank
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| posted on 3/5/07 at 11:27 AM |
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Just had a U2U asking which book has the MX5 as donor.
Here's a copy of my post to another thead a while back, the links still seem to work
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For an MX5 Donor look here, this is the website of the US book
http://www.cheapsportscar.net/
You can get it from Amazon uk which is a help
http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/ASIN/0760322872/qid=1151608364/sr=8-3/ref=sr_8_xs_ap_i3_xgl/202-5376100-4243042
If you read the posts here by "Keith Tanner" (the author) it will give you some good ideas. This link should find them automagically.
http://www.locostbuilders.co.uk/misc.php?action=search&srchuname=Keith%20Tanner&searchsubmit=a&srchfid=all&srchfrom=0
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Anonymous
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