the dave
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| posted on 26/7/07 at 06:07 AM |
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Zetec Ticking
I have a 2.0ltr Silvertop and earlier this week i took of my ERA sump and altered the position of my tiger shortened oil pick up and baffle to try and
improve oil pressure and prevent surging.
I did this and put it all back together, new gasket etc. Once i'd put the starter motor back on i filled it with unipart 5W30 which has the ford
standard 913 stamp thing, and filled it up to the full line on the dip stick.
Now, as i fire the engine up there is a new, very prominent ticking, or tapping. This tapping is in time with the rev's, e.g. speed up the revs
speed up the tapping. I thought it might be a tappet not getting oil and that i'd put the pickup on incorrectly, but i'm having trouble
pinpointing the tap. Could i have done something to cause a tapping elsewhere in the engine, e.g. in the bottom end?
Has anyone else come across this before? It is damned annoying, also i think my oil prssure is worse. I took the relief valve out wiped it down and
put it back so it is isn't stuck, but is there a particular way it needs to be installed? Is it possible to place the oil puckup too low in the
sump?
Soo many questions, so little idea.
Thanks guys
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scutter
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| posted on 26/7/07 at 06:21 AM |
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There's a possiblitly that your new oil pickup pipe is being clouted by the crank,
How hard is it to remove the sump and check the pipe for new shiney marks?
ATB Dan.
The less I worked, the more i liked it.
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saigonij
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| posted on 26/7/07 at 07:09 AM |
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i would use drain the oil and actually use ford oil if you want to remove the ticking noise....
i fille dup with comma oil last time which is meant to be the right zetec oil ( or so i was told ) and my blacktop in the focus ticks on startup.
in terms of oils and zetecs, dont use anything other than actual ford stuff - i know its dearer, but its made specifically for it.
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Macbeast
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| posted on 26/7/07 at 07:26 AM |
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Can you easily take the rocker cover off and check to see if oil is being pumped through to the cam followers ?
Does oil pump need to be primed ? Wouldn't have thought so unless engine didn't turn over for weeks while you were modding.
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whitestu
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| posted on 26/7/07 at 07:47 AM |
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quote:
i fille dup with comma oil last time which is meant to be the right zetec oil ( or so i was told ) and my blacktop in the focus ticks on startup.
The silver top has hydraulic lifters hence the need for a specific grade of oil, but the blacktop has solid lifters. Why would it tick with different
oil?
Stu
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saigonij
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| posted on 26/7/07 at 08:12 AM |
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just telling you what happened to me. pretty sure i did not make it up.
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whitestu
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| posted on 26/7/07 at 08:38 AM |
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quote:
just telling you what happened to me. pretty sure i did not make it up.
Sorry - didn't mean it to sound like that - was just wondering why.
I've got a Focus Zetec going into my Indy this winter and hadn't given any thought to using Ford only oil.
Stu
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BKLOCO
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| posted on 26/7/07 at 09:00 AM |
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Exactly the same thing happened to me.
I thought the worse.... Big end... small end... etc. etc.
Mine was discovered on removal of the sump to be a big end bolt just clipping the oil windage tray.
I would lay bets that yours is the same.
In standard form there is very little clearance between this tray and the big end bolts. You only need to have bent it slightly on assembly and it
will foul.
Experience is what you get when you don't get what you want!!! 
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scoobyis2cool
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| posted on 26/7/07 at 10:57 AM |
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I had exactly the same problem, admittedly with a Pinto rather than a Zetec. It turned out the crank was hitting the oil pickup pipe, as scutter
suggested. A swift adjustment with a mallet and the problem was solved!
Pete
It's not that I'm lazy, it's that I just don't care...
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zetec
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| posted on 26/7/07 at 11:23 AM |
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I know you did not mention anything to do with the injection and timing but...I knocked the throttle pot on mine and moved it off the ECO set point,
engine sounded just like one of the tappets was on the blink, must have been very slight pinking...just an thought.
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scoobyis2cool
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| posted on 26/7/07 at 11:40 AM |
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Just another thought. When I had this problem I took the sump off and used a socket on the crank bolt to slowly turn the engine over by hand. That
allows you to see if anything is fouling.
Pete
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the dave
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| posted on 26/7/07 at 03:49 PM |
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Thanks for the suggestions.
I took the sump off again last night and didn't see anything obvious, but i'll go and check things over.
Hopefully it's something silly.
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Mark Allanson
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| posted on 26/7/07 at 05:41 PM |
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I know this is really obvious but have you driven the car since the top up. I work in a bodyshop and some of the cars are onsite quite a long time and
the oil settles and on startup some rattle like a rattly thing! The cure is a good howl down the bypass, just revving or tickover doesn't do the
job - worth a try
If you can keep you head, whilst all others around you are losing theirs, you are not fully aware of the situation
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the dave
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| posted on 27/7/07 at 09:57 PM |
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I have taken the sump off and now obvious signs of anything knocking.
One thought though. I opened the pressure relief valve cover, and then took out the funny 'spinning top' looking bit of metal and the
attached spring. On the end of the spring was a cup with an off centre slot in. Does it matter what orientation this is, as I didn't pay
attention to which way it was when i removed it.
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