IndyJohn
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| posted on 4/12/07 at 10:39 AM |
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GT1
Hello
now I know I am not the most popular guy on here!
So might be wrong to ask advice
But hey what the f**k will give it a shot.
I am in love with this car, does anyone know anything about it?
Is it reasonable to quote £2000 to have it SVA,d and it still wont have a reverse gear on it?
http://www.pistonheads.co.uk/sales/225843.htm
any comment please
John
[Edited on 4/12/07 by IndyJohn]
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zxrlocost
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| posted on 4/12/07 at 10:59 AM |
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hi john most BEC people dont worry about a reverse
although you could fit an electric reverse
and if there offering 2k off to SVA yourself then there must quite a few hours labour needed and some changes here and there
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IndyJohn
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| posted on 4/12/07 at 11:05 AM |
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hi
link did not work so here is another
i would need a reverse due to having a narrow drive!
http://sovereigncarsales.co.uk/Sports_Gridpos10.aspx
hope this worked
john
[Edited on 4/12/07 by IndyJohn]
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zxrlocost
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| posted on 4/12/07 at 11:16 AM |
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Ive looked at it and theres a lot of stuff already there but theres obv a reason why there quoting 2k
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Mr Whippy
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| posted on 4/12/07 at 12:43 PM |
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if you do buy it make sure they give you the graphic files that were used to print the stickers otherwise they may be difficult to reproduce if
damaged.
I can't see the dash but I'd bet is not SVA friendly. Make a list of SVA requirements and go over the car to see what needs changed,
can't even see the rear lights...
[Edited on 4/12/07 by Mr Whippy]
Fame is when your old car is plastered all over the internet
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Hellfire
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| posted on 4/12/07 at 12:50 PM |
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If you were to SVA it yourself, I seriously doubt it would cost anywhere near 2K. I think they're only quoting that much because they
don't want the hassle of SVA themselves and stand to make a few quid if someone is prepared to pay 13K for it.
The mirrors and side repeaters would suggest to me that the car was built with SVA in mind. Priced at 11K, I would suggest there is some room for
negotiation 
If it's what you fancy, go for it. Personally I'd go for this Sprint R and spend
a few hundred getting it SVA'd. Although it only has one seat, I'm sure it would outperform the GT1 
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Mr Whippy
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| posted on 4/12/07 at 12:59 PM |
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I'd also say don't go alone, you say you love that car but that's not the attitude to have when viewing it (rose tinted glasses
syndrome). Take someone who knows BEC’s and will be objective while you drooling . To be honest I think it’s way over priced for what really is an
unfinished kit, i.e. non road legal. It’s a simple BEC car with a simple shell and for that money you could buy a real nice legal car, so don’t accept
their price, put it down and point out all the thing that need changed just like you’d do if you were buying someone’s unfinished project. It’s not
you fault it’s not been built right…
Fame is when your old car is plastered all over the internet
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Hammerhead
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| posted on 4/12/07 at 01:05 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by Hellfire
Personally I'd go for this Sprint R and spend a few hundred getting it SVA'd.
Although it only has one seat, I'm sure it would outperform the GT1
Whats Chris going to build next??? 
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vinny1275
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| posted on 4/12/07 at 01:13 PM |
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You could always give Paul @ Spire sports cars a call. He took over the GT1 from MK, and tho he's changed it, he still knows the original very
well.
He'd also rather see one on the road, especially in this kind of livery, rather than in a showroom somewhere. He'll be able to give you
advice about what to look for with a view to SVA-ing them.
HTH
Vince
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IndyJohn
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| posted on 4/12/07 at 01:18 PM |
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Hi
thanks for the comments and your tips Hellfire
The main thing is I love the shape of the GT1 I need 2 seats so I can take my son out in it, and so in a cpl of years maybe he can take me out in
it.
I do want a two seater. I do agree that it maybe a lot cheaper to get sva,d myself.
I have not seen many gt1,s for sale so cany compare the price. So you opinions are appreciated.
Am i likley to see another for sale within the next 4 months?
regards john
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IndyJohn
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| posted on 4/12/07 at 01:20 PM |
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oh, dash and more pics on pistonheads
john
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IndyJohn
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| posted on 4/12/07 at 01:35 PM |
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hi
found this and i have asket them for a price for a factory finished car!
http://www.spiresportscars.co.uk/index.html
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Jon Ison
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| posted on 4/12/07 at 01:39 PM |
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Hi,
Couple of answers and points for you.
I don't think you will see another for sale in the near future and don't know where this one as come from, they are very few and far
between.
Paul at spire sports cars wont be able to help you, its the GTr he has, unless something as happened I don't know about ?
You will struggle big time to get any replacement bodywork should you require it.
I do have a few spares here that would fit the car, wishbones and a rear upright from memory, may be other bits.
I can offer more advice if you wish on a few things that to get the best from the car would need sorting.
Does anyone know the history of this car ? I thought i knew where most of them where but this one slipped the net ? Its not the one from ebay a while
back is it been re built ? Its the only one I'm not sure of its whereabouts.
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IndyJohn
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| posted on 4/12/07 at 01:48 PM |
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Thanks Mr Ison 
I appreciate your coments and offers.
I asked them at winchester about any history and this is what they said
Hi John,
We bought this car off te previous owner in a 95% finished state, he sold it due to change of cicumstance.
We have since finished the car here on site and put it up for sale.
Hope this answers your question.
Sovereign Cars
The other GT1 you refer to on ebay a while ago? Was it the white red and blue one in playstation colours in the Warrington area? If so I spoke to the
owner last night. Well not much coversation really as I asked is the car still for sale mate? The reply was Its been nicked!!!!
john
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Jon Ison
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| posted on 4/12/07 at 01:52 PM |
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No, not the playstaion cars, they had two, there was a chassis and bodywork on maybe as long as a year ago, it would be interesting to know the
previous owner of this one, well worth it I would have thought from your point of view ?
If you wanna call me this evening be happy to talk GT1's with you, owned n built two.
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IndyJohn
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| posted on 4/12/07 at 01:54 PM |
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Hi
thanks Jon
what do you mean by "well worth it I would have thought from your point of view ?
do you mean the price is ok?
john?
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Jon Ison
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| posted on 4/12/07 at 02:07 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by IndyJohn
do you mean the price is ok?
john?
No I would be looking to pay 1/2 that maximum, I would also want to know its history, cant be to hard to track, off the top of my head 10-11 where
built (kits)
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IndyJohn
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| posted on 4/12/07 at 02:13 PM |
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thanks Jon
I dont think a dealer is going to drop that much
I am also no fool and you sound as if you know a bit about these kits and I will not be parting with 5K above the odds!
So Jon will you build me one please Oh and I want it ready for end of March begging of April!
john
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Hellfire
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| posted on 4/12/07 at 03:27 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by vinny1275
You could always give Paul @ Spire sports cars a call. He took over the GT1 from MK, and tho he's changed it, he still knows the original very
well.
Vince
Paul at spire Sportscars had nothing to do with the GT1. He bought the GTR from MK.
Phil
Oops. Just spotted Jons post.....
[Edited on 4-12-07 by Hellfire]
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vinny1275
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| posted on 4/12/07 at 04:01 PM |
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quote:
Paul at spire Sportscars had nothing to do with the GT1. He bought the GTR from MK.
Phil
Oops. Just spotted Jons post.....
[Edited on 4-12-07 by Hellfire]
I stand corrected - I'll try not to get my GTs mixed up in the future. If you want a brand new kit in the LMP stylee, Paul's GTR is good.
Cheers
Vince
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Mike S
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| posted on 4/12/07 at 04:19 PM |
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There are very few GT1's about.
When they do come up they seem to be between £10k - £12k for the nice ones.
As an unfinished project it is not worth what a finished and SVA'd car would be, but the parts alone are going to be worth a fair bit.
As an indication, I have spent about 17k so far on mine and it still is not finished!! (not too far away now though).
So, if it is built from quality (new) parts and has been built to a high standard and they have spent the kind of money that I have, then on face
value, it might well be a reasonable price.
However, as with all these things, it is only worth what someone is prepared to pay.
Cheers
Mike
There are more horses' asses in this world than there are horses
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evo3500
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| posted on 4/12/07 at 07:14 PM |
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sva and GT
Hi John,I had a GT1 and SVED it all proper and that and to be honest had very little trouble getting it through as most of the bodywork is sva
friendly,my fails where emissions brake effort and I had to fitt a grill at the rear to cover the chain drive,oh yes and had to fit landrover mirrors
for rear veiw ! but they did the job great little car though and it went very well, I think the main thing you ought to check is the headlight
heights,and the rest of lighting for regs, as I used a different bonnett for mine,but everthng else should be reasonbly strightforward Im sure you
would get plenty of change out of a grand to sva yourself, £500 quid should see most things right if you are shrewd.
As regards the price Id make him an offer if you like it as I bet they didnt pay anything like that for it.It does look like a nice one from the
pics,but I reckon not much over £10k for the car.
Well thats my opinion anyway !
Hope it helps.
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IndyJohn
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| posted on 4/12/07 at 07:59 PM |
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hi
thanks guys for all the replies and all the u2us there is a wealth of knowledge here ( and a few dicks as well me being one at times)
I am not sure as to go with a new build GTR which I dont like quite as much as the GT1
But if the GTR is a much better car? Then I would be stupid to go on looks alone? But thats my main reason....then speed!
So still thinking and Worx thanks you have been a great help
john
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Jon Ison
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| posted on 4/12/07 at 09:04 PM |
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I was judging the price on a few things........
Its not on the road.
I sold a road legal one admittedly requiring the bodywork re fitting and paint for £5k, this included a dry sumped engine, rose jointed suspension and
a few other trick bits including mods to the chassis and diff hanger that are required for handling and longevity.
You can buy a road legal radical for that sort of money, choice of.
It can be a nice capable car but parts will/are much more obscure than one off locost parts, not sure me personally would like to go down that route
again, bend a wishbone, your making your own, god forbid damage the bodywork, its game over, hence the value I would put on it, its a risk to buy.
Its value is what someone will pay I guess but me, I would not want to pay more than £5-6K tops as it is, but its not my money, just offering an
honest opinion.
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george1980
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| posted on 4/12/07 at 09:39 PM |
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i nearly bought this car a coulple of months ago,
the car started life as a very poorly built car and soveriegn cars have stripped and started from the bottom,
he has started getting it ready for sva by doing electrics and lights,
i only got him down to 10 k with out sva,
problem is body panels are no longer avalible nor are any other parts like wish bones etc.
great looking car but its always going to be a bit of a white elephant,
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