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Robert Ryan

posted on 14/8/08 at 03:52 PM Reply With Quote
First MOT

Just been to the post office to tax the Kit, they said the car needed a MOT after the first year because I had it registed on a old log book. I rang the tax office who said the same. I thought it was 3 year?
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Paul (Notts)

posted on 14/8/08 at 04:27 PM Reply With Quote
Tax it online and you should be fine.

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Robert Ryan

posted on 14/8/08 at 04:36 PM Reply With Quote
The tax office said if I was pulled or I needed to claim on insurance they would ask for a MOT.
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Ben_Copeland

posted on 14/8/08 at 04:49 PM Reply With Quote
What d u mean by registering it on an old log book? The year of manufacture should say last year. If not it'll be older than 3 years I guessing. its not still registered as your donor car is it?





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Robert Ryan

posted on 14/8/08 at 05:11 PM Reply With Quote
I registed it last year, donor log book from a 1994 ford, as I had used the old ford diff, received a old registration E Reg I think, so I then put a private reg.

[Edited on 14/8/08 by Robert Ryan]

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BenB

posted on 14/8/08 at 05:13 PM Reply With Quote
Naughty......

If you got pulled the lack of MOT might not be the only problem. Incorrectly registered cars are not very popular (understatement) with the DVLA (or the police!) for obvious reasons. If they pull up the number of your car on a database it'll show up as a 1994 Ford which (unless the copper knows nothing about cars) it clearly isn't.....

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Robert Ryan

posted on 14/8/08 at 05:21 PM Reply With Quote
what have I done wrong ?
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meany

posted on 14/8/08 at 05:25 PM Reply With Quote
what does it actually say on your log book?






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Robert Ryan

posted on 14/8/08 at 05:28 PM Reply With Quote
date of first registration 07/..1994
Date of first reg in UK 2007

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TimC

posted on 14/8/08 at 05:30 PM Reply With Quote
Woah - there's no legal problem here. He's just got an age related plate, the same prefix as the donor vehicle. Quite normal, and not illegal at all. It just suggests that all but a couple of major components came from the same donor.

This does however seem to confuse the DVLA - I got 'caught out' and took my old J-plate Indy for an MOT after a year.

It's not necessary and there's a bloomin' good post on here somewhere that explains all. Can we stop the scaremongering now please?

Hang on - edit having seen this:
quote:
Originally posted by Robert Ryan
date of first registration 07/..1994
Date of first reg in UK 2007

Except, that doesn't seem right somehow. That suggests to me that they've registered your car in the same way that they register a grey import and hence, I have no idea......

[Edited on 14/8/08 by TimC]






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Ben_Copeland

posted on 14/8/08 at 05:45 PM Reply With Quote
Did u do a SVA?

It shouldnt be saying 1994, that suggests to me you have same registration as donor and therefore its not showing as only 1 year old.





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Robert Ryan

posted on 14/8/08 at 06:07 PM Reply With Quote
First

I took the car to dvla registed it .
got an age related plate, the same prefix as the donor vehicle.
Second
2 weeks later
had a SVA test. (last year)
Last
6 months ago put on a
private plate.
This year have been asked for MOT.

[Edited on 14/8/08 by Robert Ryan]

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adithorp

posted on 14/8/08 at 06:21 PM Reply With Quote
You shouldn't have been able to register it before SVA. For a kit to be registered it has to have a MAC certificate first. DVLA screwed up!

I think you need to go and see them and get it sorted (good luck!). The MOT is the least of it.

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Robert Ryan

posted on 14/8/08 at 06:33 PM Reply With Quote
I KNOW OF LOTS OF PEOPLE WHO HAVE REGISTED WITH DVLA BEFORE SVA.
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theconrodkid

posted on 14/8/08 at 06:47 PM Reply With Quote
ive never known a car to be registered before SVA,you need to hand the MAC over to get a reg no,but then again with the good old dvla anything is possible





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Paul (Notts)

posted on 14/8/08 at 07:56 PM Reply With Quote
https://www.raccheck.com/consumer/vehicleDetails1.do

use the above link to see what details are recorded on the data base for your reg. If its still the doner car then you need to sort it out.

You Cant register a kit and get a reg before the SVA -

Do you still have the MAC

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BenB

posted on 14/8/08 at 08:27 PM Reply With Quote
Sounds like DVLA have screwed up.....
Have you still got the MAC then???
You probably need to retrospectively apply for an age-related plate. Considering DVLA screwed up I expect they'll do whatever you want

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TimC

posted on 15/8/08 at 07:04 AM Reply With Quote
If your car is now registered as an MNR, and all seems well, I'd be very tempted to do the MOT and move on. Otherwise you're going to be doing a lot of letter writing etc etc. For the sake of £36....

What are other peoples' views on this?






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Krismc

posted on 15/8/08 at 04:14 PM Reply With Quote
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what are other peoples views on this ?


I think he technically hasnt got the right documents for his car, therfore his car isnt registered and therefore hasnt the right insurance and therefore should phone and sort with DVLA-

if for example he left as is and he was given a producer for a crash- Im sure the police would have something to say.

[Edited on 15/8/08 by Krismc]





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Robert Ryan

posted on 15/8/08 at 06:00 PM Reply With Quote
Phoned dvla twice, Both times they said that any car that has been registed with some donor parts will get a age related plate.

Any car with a age related plate needs a MOT after the first year.

Looks like I am of to get a MOT tomorrow.

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Johneturbo

posted on 15/8/08 at 06:22 PM Reply With Quote
I'm sure even Q plates don't need an MOT before 3 years. it does sound very odd. i did have mine inspected before sva, but no chance of reg before sva.
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DarrenW

posted on 19/8/08 at 09:27 AM Reply With Quote
Assuming you used Stockton DVLA i will be shocked if it has been registered incorrectly. kelly at Stockton did mine Dec05. I know Coozer had his done by same person this year so ill guess there is continuity.

Did DVLA issue you the age related registration docs before SVA? Or did you just contact them before SVA to get the paperwork etc and then after SVA hand in MAC etc before they gave you the reg? I had home inspection several weeks before SVA but it wasnt until after SVA that i could complete the application and get the reg and V5.

Assuming your car has been registered correctly, i had a similar issue 6 months after registration when i went for next 6 months tax (or maybe the tax at the 12 month anniversary - cant remember which now). Couldnt do it online as it asked for MOT. i contacted Kelly and she told me to send V5 back into her with a cheque for tax - reconfirmed that no MOT due for 3 years. She sent tax disc to me in post and V5 off to swansea. The error was with Swansea. V5 was created incorrectly. log book came back - looked identical to me but there are various codes on it that might have changed. Taxing has been Ok since.


Hope this helps you. Keep us posted.






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marc n

posted on 20/8/08 at 06:12 PM Reply With Quote
i havent read it all but are you on an age related plate ???, if so have you the same reg as the donor , if so then the dvla have cocked up, your car to be legal should say its an mnr on the logbook if it says anything else then the car is illegally registered please check asap as you insurance could be void, if you need any help give us a bell at work tomorrow

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Robert Ryan

posted on 20/8/08 at 07:00 PM Reply With Quote
Yes I am on a age related plate, but when I registed they gave me a different reg same year I think.

Log book says mnr but it also says
first registed 1994
First registed in uk 2007

[Edited on 20/8/08 by Robert Ryan]

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Hellfire

posted on 20/8/08 at 07:52 PM Reply With Quote
I'd agree with TimC. It sounds as though the DVLA have made a slight error. You could either open a can of worms with the DVLA and spend loads of time writing letters or stump up the money for an MOT.

Personally, I'd pay for the MOT and forget about it.

Phil






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