madrallysport
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| posted on 8/10/08 at 09:11 PM |
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suzuki twin cam gti engine.
Has anyone put the 1300cc engine out of a swift gti into a locost, or similar rwd set up. I was wondering what gearbox they used and if parts are
avalible to buy, or would every thing have to made, ie manifold's etc.
UNDERSTEER is when you hit the wall with the front of the car.
OVERSTEER is when you hit the wall with the rear of the car.
HORSEPOWER is how fast you hit the wall.
TORQUE is how far you take the wall with you.
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blakep82
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| posted on 8/10/08 at 09:23 PM |
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is that a mk1 gti? my dad had one of them back in the day. was actually good fun.
don't know the answer though sorry 
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red22
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| posted on 8/10/08 at 09:24 PM |
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They were a popular swap for SJ413 at one point and if I remember correctly were a straight bolt in swap so that would give you a RWD box. The one I
saw had a 4 branch that might have been a janspeed. How much the single cam 1300 and the twincams differ in the head to exhaust I don't know.
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jonno
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| posted on 8/10/08 at 10:13 PM |
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Using standard injection and SJ413 gearbox, need to get a prop made up and exhaust manifold, then she might move 
 
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jonno
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| posted on 8/10/08 at 10:18 PM |
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And a slightly updated one !
 
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jonno
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| posted on 8/10/08 at 10:27 PM |
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And this site was quite helpful
Here
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trialsman
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| posted on 9/10/08 at 12:24 AM |
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I have one with a Samurai trans sitting in the garage right now waiting to be installed. I would love to put bike T/B's and megasquirt on it
when I do install it. On my locost it will be replacing a Ford xflow so I need all new guages, new prop shaft, new fuel tank because of the EFI. It
will be a major overhaul when I do it. Anyone know how to make the stock ECU a stand alone unit????
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madrallysport
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| posted on 9/10/08 at 12:26 PM |
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cheers guys, the link is magic, as i was thinking of putting the engine into a midget. Now i need to source engine and box.
Like you trialsman i was thinking bike carbs but i was just going to use a mgeajolt set up.
UNDERSTEER is when you hit the wall with the front of the car.
OVERSTEER is when you hit the wall with the rear of the car.
HORSEPOWER is how fast you hit the wall.
TORQUE is how far you take the wall with you.
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trialsman
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| posted on 9/10/08 at 02:31 PM |
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Madrallysport, As you can see in the pic's the stock EFI will be in the way of the bonnet. On a new build usually not a problem. But on an
existing car with a scoop already on top right of the bonnet there may be issues. Also the dizzy sticks WAY out the back of the motor. I planned on
using a trigger wheel, etc. and do away with it. Won't know till I pull out the ford lump to see. Nothing is easy anymore for me. If xflow parts
were as cheap and available in the USA as they are in sunny England I would just rebuild the 1300cc Xflow and be happy with 58hp. Russ
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madrallysport
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| posted on 9/10/08 at 08:02 PM |
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Not many 1300 push rod engines in the states. I had a swift engine in a vauxhall nova year ago, mated to the vauxhall gearbox, but ran it twin 40
carbs. It went really well. You say about the dizzy at the back, i'm going to do away with it and run a trigger wheel and a megajolt but there
is a 90 degree adptor you can buy if you want to run with the standard wiring and set up. I seen them used on a coule of mk2 escort rally cars over
here.
UNDERSTEER is when you hit the wall with the front of the car.
OVERSTEER is when you hit the wall with the rear of the car.
HORSEPOWER is how fast you hit the wall.
TORQUE is how far you take the wall with you.
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trialsman
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| posted on 9/10/08 at 09:41 PM |
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Yes I have seen the 90deg dizzy but they want almost $400 US which is out of my budget. If I am doing M/S I might as well do the trigger wheel while I
am at it.
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CaptainJosh
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| posted on 10/10/08 at 09:55 AM |
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Heres a pic from my build ages ago:
[Edited on 4/11/08 by CaptainJosh]
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jonno
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| posted on 10/10/08 at 10:35 PM |
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The G13b looks great in a locost 
Any more progress ?
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locost_bryan
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| posted on 13/10/08 at 02:42 AM |
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My only question is how well the GTi engine works with the wide ratios of the Samurai/Carry van (same gearbox). The ratios are about the same as the
Sierra.
Has anyone had any on the road experience with the combo?
Bryan Miller
Auckland NZ
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John Cooper - "In that rack of tubes, son"
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pelle17b
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| posted on 30/10/08 at 09:53 PM |
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G13B engine
I am using teh G13B engine and a samurai tranny in a current build.
pictures and some more information about the car can be found at www.superseven.se
Regards Peter
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goaty
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| posted on 31/10/08 at 07:48 AM |
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cheap way around the dizzy is using a Mazda 323 dizzy which is alot stumpier. Should fit in ok with it on.
I got an engine with full loom etc sitting i was going to drop in an SJ for some fun but never got round to it.
Engine with complete loom clocks fuel pump etc sittin ghere if anyone after one.
cheers
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Nosey
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| posted on 31/10/08 at 05:59 PM |
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Not sure if it's any use to you but we ran one in a RWD Fiesta tarmac rally car. We fabricated the inlet manifold but I know Bill Falconer in
Scotland casted them for Novas etc. We used a 4 branch exhaust from a Toyota 4age and just welded on a flange, the primaries lined up perfectly. I
think we used a Mk1 dizzy and one of those electronic points replacement things, and twin 45 Webers.
They are a brilliant engine, Bill Falconer re-built it to 1400, just on 160bhp and it would rev all day, never gave us an ounce of bother.
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CaptainJosh
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| posted on 1/11/08 at 12:29 AM |
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@pelle17b:
Your building a fully caged IRS custom chassis locost with G13B engine and SJ413 gearbox?... Thats pretty much the car im building  im sure the
geometry is all different etc but its nice to see someone with the same train of thought
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trialsman
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| posted on 1/11/08 at 09:55 PM |
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Has anyone seen a stand alone wiring diagram for the Swift g13b stock wiring and ECU? That would save me a fortune vs. using Megasquirt, Russ
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CaptainJosh
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| posted on 4/11/08 at 08:23 AM |
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Sorry I just read this^
I've got a copy of the wiring diagram at home, but to save you some time go to www.teamswift.net and look for the MK2 Manual for download- its
got the whole thing in it and more.
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