westy turbo
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| posted on 20/10/08 at 03:16 PM |
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VW 1.8T
Any ideas whos making dry sump kit for it?
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J1MMY
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| posted on 20/10/08 at 03:36 PM |
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Have you tried the VW tuners/specialists?
Demon Tweeks may have a kit?
If needed let me know and I will sort you a list of possible places to harass (last completed project was a 1.8t into a VW caddy van).
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westy turbo
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| posted on 20/10/08 at 03:45 PM |
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I would really apreciate that if you can....!!!
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bassett
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| posted on 20/10/08 at 08:21 PM |
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try JBS autodesigns, backdraft motorsport, or dahlback racing as a few i know are into 450-800bhp 1.8t monsters and i know backdraft also race
theirs.
Adam
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J1MMY
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| posted on 20/10/08 at 08:38 PM |
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JBS is a good place to start, Badger5 racing, Jabbasport, Forge Motorsport.
I had a nose about on some forums and the stateside lot seem to have looked into it in more depth than over here but it sure isn't going to be
cheap no matter what.
Out of interest, why do you want to do it?
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westy turbo
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| posted on 21/10/08 at 02:08 PM |
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Just wanted to be at the safe side of the engine,but i was told that for the 320 hp,wont having any issues with out a dry kit...........
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J1MMY
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| posted on 21/10/08 at 04:28 PM |
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You certainly don't need a dry sump kit for 320bhp on a 1.8t. Depending on engine model and how you have achieved the power figure your
money would be better spent elsewhere.
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westy turbo
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| posted on 21/10/08 at 04:49 PM |
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thanks again!!
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bassett
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| posted on 21/10/08 at 10:50 PM |
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as said 320bhp is a managable figure for the 1.8t's but which way round are you mounting it or is this just your own car?
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westy turbo
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 posted on 22/10/08 at 04:16 AM |
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Its going in my westy...(hopefully)
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bassett
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| posted on 22/10/08 at 01:48 PM |
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Sounds like a great project. So you would be rotating the engine 90 degrees? This is where you may need a dry sump as the engine is built to allow oil
to slosh side to side but if you change the rotation it may starve the engine in which case you may want a dry sump as turbo cars like the 1.8t are
probably more sensitive with the turbo oil feed keeping the turbo lubricated and healthy. Maybe a sump from a audi 4 where its mounted the other way
round would be a possible solution.
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westy turbo
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| posted on 22/10/08 at 04:39 PM |
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Youre right,the ones that the First A4 had...but if i go to that route,i first have to sell all the parts i allready bought for the LET,wisecos,forged
rods,coscast with SBD valvetrain,SBD dry sump...etc etc
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J1MMY
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| posted on 22/10/08 at 07:19 PM |
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You don't need a dry sump. You change to a longitudinal sump and pickup. You can convert all 1.8t from transverse to longitudinal and vise versa
using parts from the opposite engine. Internally, they are fundamentally the same bar pin sizes, small or big porting, and rumours that certain
1.8t's had forged pistons from factory. If you are concerned with oil surge, baffles are available.
What engine code is your 1.8t?
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westy turbo
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| posted on 22/10/08 at 08:59 PM |
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dont know the code,but it came off a 2003 S3,but as said need to sell the parts that allready have and then buy it.....
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J1MMY
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| posted on 22/10/08 at 09:52 PM |
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Hmmm, if you have all of those parts for the LET, why sell them for a 1.8t? You have enough there for a strong build.
A 53 S3 engine is going to be 225 bhp IIRC and with a remap 270bhp. But you will have to either run stand alone management or adapt your car to run
the drive by wire throttle. Adapt the engine to make it a longitudinal set up and then what gearbox will you use?
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bassett
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| posted on 23/10/08 at 09:43 PM |
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most likely a BAM or AMK. Got a BAM in my Leon Cupra R, if you need to know what yours is its stamped in the service book/ stamped under the engine
cover
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J1MMY
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| posted on 24/10/08 at 12:31 AM |
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Stamped on the flat part of the integrated lifting eye on the head if not on a sticker on the timing belt cover.
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westy turbo
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| posted on 24/10/08 at 05:11 AM |
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I was ony thinking to sell the parts that i have and get the VW just for reability issues cause the VW is a "fresh" motor with a clever
and safe ecu,if i dont find to sell the parts in good prices,ill build the LET,,,i allready have the T5,MBE 967,only need the bellhousing and a light
flywheel....
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J1MMY
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| posted on 24/10/08 at 04:50 PM |
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I would stick with the LET. VW's are reliable in stock form or with a remap but can suffer problems, one being that on a remap the std turbo is
running a lot higher psi than std, this can be a weak spot, the oil pump can be another, and heavily modded/boosted engines will do head gaskets in
and in some cases and taking into consideration alloy heads, warpage meaning continual failure. Not to mention holed pistons and the usual failures
associated with modded turbo'd engines. Get the bellhousing and a flywheel and get building!
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westy turbo
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| posted on 31/10/08 at 04:52 PM |
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sorry to bring hat again up...but havent made up my mind yet.....just wondering IF gonna fit the VW,any one has a clue,why no one manage to fit a T5
box to that engine?ive read above that the Netherland company tried first and they thought the bolt patern was the same with the Type9,but its
not...you thing it worths a try even custom CNC constraction to adapt the T5....or buy a Type9 and through a gear kit in it.....which will end up
deeper in the pocket though.....
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J1MMY
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| posted on 31/10/08 at 05:29 PM |
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What do you know, I always assumed that T5's had the same bolt pattern on the bellhousing as the others! You learn something every day.
Maybe because the T5 is expensive to buy to begin with whereas a type 9 or MT75 is not. Type 9's will not take the power of the 1.8t as std
whereas the MT75 will.
The way I see it is you have a few options -
1.) Buy a T5 and risk it being in GWO
2.) Buy a type 9 and uprate it and but the conversion bellhousing
3.) Buy a MT75 and my sadly unused conversion kit to fit it to the 1.8t (nudge nudge wink wink)
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westy turbo
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| posted on 1/11/08 at 08:41 PM |
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i thought it had the same patern too...but if i finally go to the 1.8T route,will be a custom CNC adaptor i quess...1 way street...
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AlphaX
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| posted on 2/11/08 at 10:15 AM |
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the T5 will bolt to the bellhouse made by tiger holland. T9 and T5 have the same patern to the bellhouse. Email Henry and he will answer your
questions. He just got a tiger through SVA with the 1.8t
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westy turbo
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| posted on 2/11/08 at 02:21 PM |
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weird,,they were saying that the though its the same,but it wasnt....ill mail them
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westy turbo
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| posted on 2/11/08 at 10:11 PM |
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You are right,it says it does bolts....my fault it says T5 box would fit our bellhousing, however, this box has another bolt pattern.)
No if it has different patern,where the proplem will be? due different deegres?
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