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Jim

posted on 19/7/02 at 07:28 PM Reply With Quote
SVA Test

I have just finished building an MK Indy. I was not brave enough to weld my own chasis. Well I went down to Derby for the SAV test and the examiner happily told me that there had been a change in the rules and that using foam on the front suspension etc, top cover any external projections is now classed as a Temporary Obstruction unable to test. It needs to have a permanent fixture that a manufacture would hve put there. IT also failed on emissions from my 98 Fireblade engine.
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Jon Ison

posted on 19/7/02 at 08:19 PM Reply With Quote
the foam bit sounds like bad news.....guess your gonna go the "hire a cat" route for the other bit ?

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bob

posted on 19/7/02 at 09:13 PM Reply With Quote
The main area where foam pipe lagging is used,ie steering rack to track rod end.
Since the gator on the steering rack is a pemanent fixture,i'd hazard a guess and put a second gator over the offending area






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Jim

posted on 19/7/02 at 09:47 PM Reply With Quote
I think I will have to hire a CAT, but apparently if you change the needles and lean it really off then it should pass anyway as long as it is not reved very high.

The SVA man made exactly the same suggestion of putting a second gaiter over the track rod end. He said it would look nice and be classed as a permanent fixture

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bob

posted on 19/7/02 at 09:58 PM Reply With Quote
Nice one jim,so foam becomes rubber thats not so bad.
I'm building the indy too,only part i was worried about was the seat belt mounts,i'm only presuming yours are the same threaded tube welded onto bottom rails and behind seat.
I thought a plate had to be welded in to strengthen?






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Jim

posted on 19/7/02 at 10:07 PM Reply With Quote
The tester did not mention a plate being needed. He just asked us if the bolts passed all the way through the threaded tube. We told him yes as the bottom ones do and we were prepared to unscrew the panel but he never asked us to.

Does any one know where to get SVA complaint covers for the bonnet catches, the faom I had was no good there either.

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philgregson

posted on 19/7/02 at 10:08 PM Reply With Quote
Now this concerns me!

Some people seem to go over the top with the front suspension covering the entire thing in foam which I didn't fully understand and made me think that I probably didn't fully understand SVA either.
On the otherhand there are thousands of 7esque type vehicles out there that seem to manage quite well without being covered in foam.
So can some one clarify this for me?
My thoughts are that the edges of the suspension brackets, the transit track rod end where it joins the wishbone, the stering joint and the various nut and bolt heads were the problem.
Am I correct so far?

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johnston

posted on 19/7/02 at 10:14 PM Reply With Quote
if ur sva centres are like our mot centres i.e council run not your local garage. thens its the luck of the draw ive seen cars go through mot wit holes in the sills bald tyres bad copper brake pipes and suspension bushes hanging out but yet i no a guy that got failed cos the passenger door wass too stiff.
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Jim

posted on 19/7/02 at 10:19 PM Reply With Quote
The main fails were as Phil said. The tester said that if he can feel a bump that is not rounded then it fails. He said that only the offending bit needs to be covered, so only the nuts, brackets etc need to be covered
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philgregson

posted on 19/7/02 at 10:30 PM Reply With Quote
I've got a bit confused in the memory dept here, but I seem to remember that the allowable radius is 2.5mm.

If this is the case then could the brackets be dealt with by shaping the outer edge to a quadrant (therefore a rad of 3.0mm) assuming that the sphere couln't contact the inside edge - or am I missing something?

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philgregson

posted on 22/7/02 at 10:01 AM Reply With Quote
Another SVA question I'm afraid.

I was thinking of going down the chromed BBQ grill route for my fromt grill and many others apear to have done the same - However with the small radius of the wires I can't see this passing SVA either - Any comments?

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David Jenkins

posted on 22/7/02 at 10:10 AM Reply With Quote
There's a wire size v. hole size equation in the SVA manual (it's at home, before you ask).

i.e.

"If the holes are less than 'x' mm the wire can be any size, if larger than 'x' but smaller than 'y', the wire must be 'z' diam.," and so on.

David

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philgregson

posted on 22/7/02 at 01:06 PM Reply With Quote
I think I'll stop asking stupid questions and go and buy a manual rather than keep trying and piece it together from all the guides to SVA and other bits of information floating around.
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Jasper

posted on 22/7/02 at 01:14 PM Reply With Quote
Don't buy it, I can send u a link, mail me
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RoadkillUK

posted on 22/7/02 at 06:17 PM Reply With Quote
He can, mail him





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ChrisW

posted on 22/7/02 at 06:22 PM Reply With Quote
Forward it my way aswell please Jasper!

Chris





My gaff my rules

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merlin

posted on 22/7/02 at 07:47 PM Reply With Quote
me too!!!





shit happens! (but why always to me!!)

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Simon

posted on 22/7/02 at 11:13 PM Reply With Quote
Hi Chaps,

Just been reading latest issue of kit-car (the one with quite possibly the ugliest car ever designed (IMHO))on its cover.

As far as nuts/bolts go, Gerry Hawkridge, in his tech tips column mentions a company called Tifosi (Tel 01769 581454, email classics@tifosi-devon.co.uk) who do a a pack of bolt head and thread covers for £6. Apparently they've been given the thumbs up, by the SVA people.

Hope this is of use.

ATB

Simon

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Jim

posted on 23/7/02 at 10:15 PM Reply With Quote
I bought the Nut covers pack from Tifosi. They were very helpful. The pack is a general assortment. there are more small ones than larger ones. The biggest fit nicely on the front suspension nut heads and as simon says they are OK for SVA
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Alan B

posted on 23/7/02 at 10:24 PM Reply With Quote
quote:
Hi Chaps,

Just been reading latest issue of kit-car (the one with quite possibly the ugliest car ever designed (IMHO))on its cover.




Simon,

Which car is that? Just curious.

Alan B

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Simon

posted on 24/7/02 at 09:28 AM Reply With Quote
Alan,

Onyx Fastcat.

I do hope you're not trying to drop me in a hole on this. I did say IMHO.

Still think it's ugly though:-)

ATB

Simon

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Alan B

posted on 24/7/02 at 12:51 PM Reply With Quote
quote:
Alan,

Onyx Fastcat.

I do hope you're not trying to drop me in a hole on this. I did say IMHO.

Still think it's ugly though:-)

ATB

Simon


Don't worry Simon I won't be sending the boys round You are entitled to your opinion anyway.

The reasons I ask are, a) Kit-Car is hard to find in the US, and b) other people's opinion of body styling interests me a lot, because I'm doing my own body.

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David Jenkins

posted on 24/7/02 at 01:44 PM Reply With Quote
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...because I'm doing my own body.


I MUST RESIST THE TEMPTATION!

I must not give in to cheap laughs...



David






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Alan B

posted on 24/7/02 at 01:52 PM Reply With Quote
quote:
I MUST RESIST THE TEMPTATION!

I must not give in to cheap laughs...



Yeah, it's no fun having Anorexia Reverso

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jcduroc

posted on 24/7/02 at 01:55 PM Reply With Quote
Hi Jasper

E-mail it to me too, pls.
Thank you
Joćo

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