There is so much snobbery about whether a vehicle is a motorcycle, car, or scooter. In the end an engine is an engine and the basic principles appy don't they??
great second post 
, you probably could have thanked the people who helped on your original thread first.
Its not snobbery to wonder why you have come on a locost builders website to ask about a scooter. I wouldnt go on a vespa owners club site and ask
about the composite angles needed when building a haynes roadster chassis...
Steady on Mr Sprytny and Craig does have a valid point. I don't think your doing yourself any favours to have people on here warm to you. Do I
detect a defensive attitude or... I'm in danger of smelling a chip 
If your building/driving/modifying a kit car then you couldn't have come to a better place. If you need help with a scooter there's nothing
wrong with that but there may be more suitable forums where you would get better help.
Good luck.
[Edited on 10/3/10 by FFTS]
While I don't agree with Craig's expression I totally agree with his sentiment, if you're interested solely in scooters then go to a scooter specific forum. Also, very rude not to thank the people that are trying to help you!
The basic differences are that bike engines tend to have mre power and can rev much higher but have much less torque than car engines. Thats why bec's need to be as light weight as poss.
NOTICE TO EVERYONE:
LETS NO TURN THIS INTO A BEC Vs CEC AGAIN.
Mind you im thinking now that i may have just poked a bear with a hot poker, let the debate commence 
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there may be more suitable forums where you would get better help.
- to paraphrase the A team 'If you have a problem and no one else can help....' then
someone on here usually can and will! I've never come across another car related forum where you can ask for (and don't get flamed doing it)
help on virtually ANY subject and get someone who knows what they're talking about posting a reply. Which is what makes Locostbuilders so good
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Originally posted by speedyxjs
The basic differences are that bike engines tend to have mre power and can rev much higher but have much less torque than car engines. Thats why bec's need to be as light weight as poss.
I reckon its all a wind up.
Steve
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Originally posted by D Beddows
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there may be more suitable forums where you would get better help.
I bet there aren't many where you would though
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Originally posted by cd.thomson
I don't have a problem with you asking about scooters at all by the way, just the way youve gone about it then thrown your dummy.
Ok Alex lets start by talking about why you are pumping so much time, effort and money into a boat anchor, when this chap's scooter could out run
you!? 
Iagree with Mr Beddows - so what, his first post is about a scooter!? Who cares, he might well be into the LCB scene, but that wasn't his
pressing concern right now. I thought the benefit of this forum is we don't tend to have too much snobbery, or jobsworth admins....!
FYI - of the 30 posts on the front page right now, 10 of them are nothing to do with Locosts (or even kit cars).
[Edited on 10/3/10 by twybrow]
chill everyone, to be fair, yes there were 2 useful posts in the original thread, but this was outweighed by 3 posts which didn't help the
problem. so what if he's asked about a scooter? have you seen the non car chat forum? its full of stuff not even remotely connected to engines of
any kind.
besides smart51 is building a car with a scooter engine
i think this thread is another case of hitting new topic by mistake.
anyway mate, did you manage to get the scooter started?
Bike engines are magnificent but the rub lies in that they were never designed to be connected to car transmissions and lug a heavier 4 wheeled vehicle about.
what i like about this site is that people like good manners and politeness....and most are bloody clever feckers......treat as you wish to be
treated....
if you want snobbery ask a caterham owner what engine he has.....
cheers
barry
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Originally posted by Sprytny
There is so much snobbery about whether a vehicle is a motorcycle, car, or scooter. In the end an engine is an engine and the basic principles appy don't they??
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Originally posted by boggle
if you want snobbery ask a caterham owner what engine he has.....
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Originally posted by twybrow
Ok Alex lets start by talking about why you are pumping so much time, effort and money into a boat anchor, when this chap's scooter could out run you!?
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Originally posted by mcerd1
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Originally posted by boggle
if you want snobbery ask a caterham owner what engine he has.....
nooooo.... not that again
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Originally posted by twybrow
Ok Alex lets start by talking about why you are pumping so much time, effort and money into a boat anchor, when this chap's scooter could out run you!?
cause Pinto's rule
[Edited on 10/3/10 by mcerd1]
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Sorry but you are wrong. Most scooters, I cannot say all since have no interest in them watsover, have a 2 stroke engines.
I have absolutely no problem with people asking for help on any multitude of subjects, so long as they are curteous.
Asking for help in one post and then starting another to criticise the comments some people have left before thanking the people that helped in the
first one just seems plain rude to me!
Having seen the OP's latest post this is now case closed as far as I'm concerned. Forgiven and forgotten.
4 stroke I think, yes Mr B
Meanwhile, I've got this fantastic little gem of a 1999 reg, 2 stroke Suzuki AY50 scooter. 50CC that is - i.e. moped to you.
I have a question about it, hope someone can help
See my separate post...
Dave
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anyway mate, did you manage to get the scooter started?